I’m currently trying a bunch of meme supplements in the hopes of reversing the 4 gray hairs I have (and generally darken my hair). PQQ + PABA because the first supplement supposedly can generate mitochondria and reduce inflammation (in cell cultures and NY mutant rats) while PABA had some reported hair darkening effects decades ago when it was still used for sunscreen.
sev
#523
It’s just a dye. It does not repigment the roots and then the hair grows with color. They are interested in selling it that way but that is not the case. Hopefully a real and effective treatment will appear in a few years.
SNK
#524
You may be right, but it definitely does NOT stain anything that it comes in contact with. Dropped some in my hands and waited and nothing. Also, dropped some on the white counter no stain after 10-15 minutes. So while it may be a dye its mechanism of work differs widely from other hair dyes.
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Is there a way to purchase this from the US? If yes, you have a link?
sev
#526
You’re right. It seems that it is a much more effective and less toxic dye. But it’s still a dye. The effective cure has not yet arrived.
To be honest, I have no idea how to order this product from the USA. You can google Russian online pharmacies, they produce it. Perhaps they deliver to the USA. Here is the first link I came across: https://www.asna.ru/cards/antisilverin_sredstvo_dvosstanovleniya_tsveta_volos_s_krapivoy_150ml_dve_linii.html
One gets the impression that there really is more dark hair on the face. Is this the effect of your homemade cocktail?
SNK
#529
I have to say yes to that, especially the facial hair, on the hair itself (head hair) I think the effect is also helped by my 3 days of GR7 application. But as mentioned earlier I did start a copper supplement a while back, and I’ve heard that if you are deficient in copper (which I don’t know if I were since did not do blood work) then copper supplements tend to help with hair color also ( only if you were deficient in cooper). So, it could be a combination of both copper and the concoction. Always hard to tell when doing few things at once.
Jay
#530
Vblyznichenko, A simple google search of melanotan produced several links of warning to avoid the use of melanotan. The link below seems to be the best coverage I read.
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/news/beware-barbie-drug-dangers-using-melanotan
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Jay
#531
scta123, You brought up an interesting point with the DIY solution idea. The active ingredient tyrosine and the ability of GR7 to make hair go back to it’s original color whether it be black, red, auburn, etc. got my interest. I was particularly interested in how GR7 could give you back your original hair color. So, I did a Google AI Search. Here is the geeky answer for those who like precision:
Eumelanin and pheomelanin are pigments that give hair it’s color. They are derived from tyrosine. When the cysteine concentration in a cell is high, the pathway goes exclusively into the direction of producing pheomelanin which produces red hair. I assume when the concentration of cysteine in a cell is low that the pathway then goes toward production of eumelanin which produces black or brown hair. Well, that would mean GR7 is not a dye.
So, a DIY solution using tyrosine that can be absorbed makes sense to me.
For more detail here is the link I used with all of the medical details and nothing about how to Do It Yourself!
https://www.google.com/search?q=does+eumelanin+or+pheomelanin+contain+tyrosine+amino+acid&rlz=1CAZYZD_enUS1015&oq=does+eumelanin+or+pheomelanin+contain+tyrosine+amino+acid&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRirAtIBCTIwNDYzajBqOagCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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SNK
#532
Very interesting, great work digging it up.
I think in theory it could as it’s an a-msh. This video discusses other possible methods using other peptides. The website has time stamped and summarised it. Reverse Grey Hair with Peptides: UHP's Effective Solution — Eightify
But yes, M2 can have some bad side effects including causing melananoma: Melanoma associated with the use of melanotan-II - PubMed
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The facial is definately darker in the photos. Was the GR7 and/ or your home concoction applied there also?
SNK
#535
It’s a little darker I would say and yes I used both my own homemade mix and GR7. I also do various supplements one being copper(don’t know if had any effect). Btw in last couple days my grey hair on the sides of my head is almost gone, like 90% (mainly because of GR7). While the facial hair is the same, it seems that GR7 may not work so well in facial hair, and it actually does say in instructions do not use on facial hair. A bit weird that they would say that, and even weirder if it doesn’t work on facial hair. I thought hair is hair no matter where.
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Yesterday, based on your ingredients, I mixed a cocktail of 10 ml water-based hair lotion with procapil + 2 ml minoxidil + 1000 mg naс + 1000 mg glycine + 350 mg acetyl tyrosine. In the morning, the tip of the pipette in the bottle turned black and a distinct sour smell appeared (like bad beer). Strange reaction, I’m afraid to use it on my hair.
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SNK
#537
lol can’t say much but you have listed some ingredients I don’t have on mine. Guaranteed that my mix will NOT stain anything but again while I suspect can’t definitely say that a little difference I see on my facial hair is because of it as I’m doing other things also. When I look now I don’t think the difference is as much as it is seems in pic though. I think the pic I took yesterday is a bit more in profile and it seems it might have put more emphasis in black hair. Having said that I know for a fact that I see some black hair in my face where there was none. All in all I’d say I may have lost about 10-20% of the grey facial hair, but not like 50% of it as it seems in the picture.
As far as head hair yes GR7 seems to work especially my color which lighter. However I see that after using it 4 days twice per day it appears to want and make the hair a bit darker than my natural and maybe a bit reddish. So I’m planning on stopping daily use and go weekly now. Overall happy with the results. After using it for a while I have come to the same conclusion as someone on this board earlier that it does seem to be a mix of a type of dye, and perhaps some compound that induces the natural hair coloring. I also put some on my facial hair today and wetted my face with it. I can confirm that the skin has turned a darker shade (barely noticeable but it is there) after 3-4 hours. Again I think it is a fancy dye with couple other compounds in it.
BTW I wouldn’t care about the smell. The darker mark you see can’t comment on it, but you can try it on the outmost tips of a bunch of your hair and if you see it looks bad just cut it. There’s no other way of knowing
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hitch
#538
I got my first grey hair at age 19 and by 27 I was mostly grey. At 35, there was not a black hair to be found on the top of my head. I started taking rapamycin for four months ago (age 67) and much to my surprise, after six weeks, I noticed a few black hairs sprouting. Now, it is more than a few! I might have to dye my hair white soon- what’s a guy to do?
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Mitochondrial efficiency has a lot of effects.
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11th day of using gr-7 and no changes in hair color, not even yellowing. How are you doing with this lotion?
By the way, I take several supplements that claim to reverse gray hair. And today I discovered this:
on several white hairs the root is black. Is this related to the vitamins or the lotion?
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AndyR00
#542
What are the supplements you take that claim to reverse gray hair?
