#472

Yes, a big difference, havn’t checked more than seeing that.

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#473

Your dosing is spot on. I did the same and felt much younger. Can’t seem to find a distributor that sells 100 mg vial anymore.

#474
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#475

Interesting. Something to try in case of injury. However a friend of mine tried it for carpal tunnel syndrome. It didn’t have any effect.

#476

Can you please let me know your source

#477

RapAdmin, I have to make a likely unpopular comment on this video. Two months for a young person with tendonitis is adequate time for healing without BPC 157, especially if tendonitis is in an area which isn’t required for locomotion on a daily basis. I had Achilles tendonitis in high school which was very, very painful because I continued to jog thinking that would be good for it. Not knowing what my problem was at the time I eventually knew that the jogging had to end, but I still had to walk. So, I did, but as little as possible. I didn’t jog any for two months and the tendonitis gradually healed perfectly fine in that period of time. In my sixties I had Achilles tendonitis again, but not nearly as bad as my high school experience. However, knowing what it was this time I used stiff insoles, didn’t jog and walked a minimal amount and it also healed just fine this time, but it took about a year before I felt no pain. The point here is that physical health and youth likely did his healing as it did with my high school tendonitis. Now, if he had done injections in the area of his tendonitis I wouldn’t be so skeptical. And, if I had known about injectable peptides during my last tendonitis episode I might have tried them, too. My opinion of non-injectible peptides is low because I’ve tried BPC 157, TB 400 and Pinealon capsules and found them all to be useless and expensive for what you actually get. But, of course, YMMV!

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#478

I don’t think your opinion is unpopular. Everything I’ve ever heard/read about BPC (which is mainly anecdotal) is that for injury healing, it should be injected subcutaneously (preferably near the injury site), and that oral BPC only really has potential to help gastrointestinal issues.

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#479

I often use BPC-157 500 mcg/day subcutaneously for individuals post operatively as you only get one chance to heal, or for chronic non-healing wounds or acute injuries, or older injuries that aren’t healing. Anecdotes, but certainly seem to have better results than expected without it. It also drives up BDNF and I’m using this as part of a number of items on a patient with a recent brain injury. The improvement is more than expected in my experience (but this isn’t the only thing we are doing).

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#480

Hi Steve. Curious to hear about your data on this point. What blood markers are you following? And is the 25mg threshold based on published research or your own biomarkers?

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#481

Does BPC-157 works if its not injected ? if so, what would you recommend ?

#482

There is oral BPC-157. As with all peptides, there will be a lot of degradation with touching stomach acid and the issue is absorption. There are multiple groups selling oral BPC-157.

This group, which I cannot speak to the quality has SC, Nasal and Oral BPC-157.

For acute healing is the primary use post injury/surgery. Sometimes healing older injuries. It will increase BDNF.

I do use this in my patients occasionally.

#483

thanks

unfortunately, that doesnt ship to europe !
i previously bought bpc.157 and tb500 in capsules (from germany) and didnt really feel any difference in my shoulder tendonites

any takes on that ?

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#484

Not everything gets better with this treatment; but in capsules, who knows if anything actually gets absorbed or if it is all denatured. In general, peptides should be given subcutaneously and then you know exactly what you are getting in regard to quantity that is biologically active.

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#485

TB 500 is useless orally.

BPC-157 can have benefits orally but primarily for gut related issues.

If you are looking for soft tissue benefit, both these must be SubQ or you are wasting your time and money.

I’ve been taking a combo dose of BPC (500mcg) + TB (500mcg) every morning for 14 months. At 68 I heal like a kid and recover from strenuous work by the next morning.

Two old injuries healed in about 6 months.

I have several friends doing he same thing and one has a degenerated disk in the neck, 2 surgeries and no relief from pain for 15 years. Two months on the BPC+TB combo and told me the other day “feeling like a new person, started working out again, neck pain at it’s lowest in 12 years” And just added MOTS-c to that combo last week.

The other one has an abdominal aortic aneurysm after 3 months had a previously scheduled check up and the Doc was amazed at the size reduction A year later they don’t see it anymore. Doc wants to know how?

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#486

What dose of thymosin do you inject?

#487

thanks for the insight !

do you apply it yourself ? every day when you need it ?

#488

Initial dose of 2mg the day someone gets sick or if I feel off, then 1mg/day thereafter. 10mg total. I think I’ve now done this 4 times this year and it has worked every time.

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#489

It’s not applied, it’s injected and yes injected subcutaneous every day :slight_smile:

#490

Greetings everyone. I am new to this forum but I thought I would add my 2 cents about peptides and bioregulators. I am a 67 years old physician and have used peptides for 7 years and bioregulators for 1 year. Rapa off and on for 2 years. Also have extensive experience with UVB, ozone, sauna, nutrition, IV therapies and many other interventions. Never missed a day of work and never had an extended illness as an adult. Lots of body trauma from extreme sports.

When used correctly, peptides are amazing. I think the biggest problems with them are the cost and SC delivery for most of them. They also become increasing ineffective over time if used on a regular basis. I see peptides as more of an acute fix for an underlying health issue.

Peptide Bioregulators on the other hand, are well suited for life long use. They do most of what peptide therapy does, but over a longer period. They also work more at the root cause of aging. I suspect they are the most powerful anti-aging intervention available.

I have been using different bioregulators for about a year, and the improvements in my health have been substantial. I have also encouraged about 20 friends to start them and they have all reported some level of improvement. Some huge.

Benefits I have experienced or observed are improvements in muscle mass, sleep, vision, mental clarity, prostate health, stamina, mood, stress response, and improved immune function. Very helpful for long Covid for some people.

The only negatives for me have been occasional finger joint edema. comes and goes.

The upfront cost are a little high but the long term cost is not too bad. Usually start with the big three for a month and cycle on and off monthly after that. Can than add symptom specific bioregulators. For instance the one for prostate has helped some friends cut their nightly visits to the BR to zero. My 90 year old mom got a new lease on life.

I strongly suggest anyone interested in this topic search Google Scholar for some of the original studies from Russia. These compounds were originally developed for the Russian Military to protect against biologic, chemical and radiation threats. Very interesting reading.

Cheers

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#491

@sleepdoc what’s the difference between a peptide and a “peptide bioregulator”. Would regulators be the growth hormone secretagogues as opposed to the GLP agonist peptides?

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