#10

I apologize for the diversion, but @Qurestine you do 20 hours of martial arts training per week? Plus 1-3 hours of weight training? — that is SERIOUSLY impressive (unless you are a professional or Olympic martial arts competitor, and then I’d ignorantly guess these levels are…ummm, average?). In the summer I often hike 10-25 hours per week plus 3 hours of weight training (more in winter plus stairs), but that is a much lower intensity of physical activity (and I’d argue my weight training can be at least 2/3rds resting for my next set). And I thought I was in pretty good shape…

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#11

I think this is the right question. I am addicted to supplements but am working hard to eliminate as many as I can by looking for the ones that are not supported by hard data or that I can get though food. When I need more than my diet will provide, I will supplement with reliable pharmaceuticals or nutraceuticals. This is my goal, anyway.

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#12

my average is ~12h per week martial arts training, but it strongly depends on the intensity of the training. And no, I’m not a professional, but I think I have a mild athlete’s heart.
Btw I like hiking to, esp on mountains. Unfortunatly I’m living in the lowlands.

@约瑟夫_拉维尔 I could be addicted too, but theres a mild voice in my head saying all the time: “interactions, interactions you damned damsel!”
21 supps, 3 from in-house production. But I take only 6-8 per day.

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#13

I did martial arts for 30 years. Loved it. Loved sparring.

#14

And here’s a study on taurine and the kidneys, a concern of mine. Looks like a good risk/reward ratio.

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#15

Which has more credibility Attia’s “opinion” or a peer reviewed published study?

If you wait until you are ready, it is almost certainly too late.”
~ Seth Godin

I am not the waiting type.

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#16

For what it’s worth I found the research on Taurine compelling enough to consider taking (mostly for sports performance) prior to this study existing.

IMO, taurine is extremely favorable on the risk reward spectrum. Yes, the reward may not be that high, but the risk appears low.

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#17

As with most supplements, I ask myself : how does this improvement compares to the one brought on by exercise? Bonus question : does more exercise lead to more endogenous production of said supplement?

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#18

Since I’ve started taking taurine a couple of weeks ago (1.5-2 grams) at night, I have had markedly more vivid dreams. Has anyone else experienced this?

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#19

I noticed it but I wasnt sure which supplement was the cause. And 2g made it worse than 1g

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#20

Sign me up.

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#21

I back off to 1 g tonight. If I didn’t need to be productive, it would be interesting to explore the dreams, which all seem consequential. But it’s not very restful.

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#22

I’m not a vegetarian, but it makes me feel better - so I’ve been taking it for years. I think the fact that i felt better taking it is a good clue that i needed it. I used to wake up with headacjes b4.

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#23

I’m carnivore so I really eat a lot of meat and taurine doesn’t do anything for me.

Interestingly more vivid dreams is what many people that start out on the carnivore diet describe too

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#24

Happened to me on carnivore. I’m eating vegetables again but not as much as meat. Feel great. Probably die of CVD.

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#25

@Qurestine Could you talk briefly about the 3 in-house production? (I loved to see your post about the DIY rapa cream)

#26

thx and sorry for answering that late. Its nothing special, just 3 plant powders.
a green powder based on vegetables
a red berry powder (with lower sugar content as in berrys!)
and a cocoa powder with some healthy spices (50% spice content)

all science based, no added sugars, no impact at least on my insulin level.

I was just seeking for a healthy plant powder and found none or at least none with a good price/performance ratio. All companys just buy cheap and sell dear. So I made my own.

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#27

This in on Dr. Matt Kaeberlein’s take on Taurine benefit… second after rapamycin… hmmm.

I have been taking it now for several weeks. No issues.

Matt Kaeberlein currently is not on Taurine… but interested.

Matt Kaeberlein
Link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EEP8y5k0VxM&feature=share

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#28

I like taurine. Studies, and my own personal anecdotal, evidence show that it lengthens uninterrupted sleep time when taken near bedtime. It is also synergistic with coffee and improves endurance and cognitive function. Currently, I am taking 3 grams before bedtime and 2 grams in the morning with my coffee.

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#29

Thank you, @desertshores , as I know you try to keep your “stack” lean: I am trying to follow in your footsteps and not to add much, although it keeps creeping upward.

From this thread, taurine competes with glycine and beta-alanine (carnosine) — so are you not taking either at the same times as your 2x per day taurine?

I’ve personally been drinking two cups of coffee every morning (strong Colombian) with 7g collagen and 3g glycine mixed in (pretty tasty). I recently added dark cocoa powder in my attempt to lower LDL without statins (I take citrus bergamot so that might be cheating anyway). I’m not sure that the cocoa is doing any good given the compounds are in low concentrations.

I don’t want to drink another two cups of coffee at night with taurine (I’ll be up for a week). And I wanted the “ reduced advanced glycolization end products from having carnosine. So am I to take glycine in the morning (with NAC), taurine at night, and beta-alanine in the middle of the day? — I’m starting to sound like a wacko with that schedule.

Oh: I’m also ready to start creatine before workouts as well. (I need a cystatin eGFR test first as a baseline).

So my stack would be:
Citrus bergamot
1mg finasteride
Glycine / NAC
Astraxanthin
Vitamin D
(Does cocoa count?)

Creatine (haven’t started)
Beta-alanine (haven’t started)
Rapamycin twice a month (haven’t bought)
And now taurine? (Haven’t bought)

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