man_li
#184
Any reference information show benefit in ITP with Estriol ?
All the benefits I know now are about 17 α-Estradiol with male.
man_li
#188
I found commercial forms of estriol include creams and tablets. I found these drugs manufactured in India. Are they the same molecules which have been tested in ITP ? Thanks
Cream: Evalon Estriol Cream, 15 g at Rs 509 in Nagpur | ID: 2853285190233
Tablet: Estriol Evalon 1mg Tablet, Prescription, Harmone Replacement Therapy at Rs 152/stripe in Nagpur
AnUser
#189
Yes it’s the same, I don’t know the dosing or anything else.
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Does anyone has exams pre and post usage of alfatradiol on hair? Really want to see the degree of systemic absorption. I used it myself back in 2016, but at that time I didnt measure the hormones. Now it is harder to find in my country
Do you mean measuring systemic absorption by checking 17-alpha estradiol? Anyway, there is a company (apohealth.de) I know that ships this out of Germany worldwide:
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Actually by measuring 17b-estradiol and testosterone.
I’ve seen some studies (in monkeys) showing that alfatradiol may enhance 17b estradiol production and lower the T levels. But it was high dosage and orally, they have never made good studies on topical usage with low doses like 0.75mg. The study on monkeys were like 15mg orally.
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Just to clarify - are people here mixing this with transcutol and applying to the skin with a dropper for systemic absorption? Any noticeable effects?
Phillipe
#194
The one I posted is premixed.
Doesn’t look like it’s mixed with transcutol though
From a chemical data sheet, looks like DMSO and ethanol are solvents for our new best friend:)
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Jay
#197
It’s been about a year and a half since DrEcsta gave a report on his use of 17 Alpha Estradiol. If anyone knows how to contact him let me know. I want to hear more about his story.
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Pat25
#198
Have members been using the 17-alpha estradiol serum in their hair on a daily basis? Any changes in hair density? Wondering if it could have effects (in a female) if you don’t experience thinning yet, and still have a scalp full of hair (knocking on wood).
Does application result in greasiness? (Can’t wash scalp too often as mentioned, because of fine hair and lots of knots to detangle if I do). Thanks!
Virilius
#199
As someone who used alfatradiol in the past, it didn’t help as a mono-therapy treatment nor did it help when used in conjunction with finasteride. I once emptied half a bottle on my head out of frustration and my breast tissue hurt that day. On the upside, it does not leave your hair greasy like topical minoxidil would.
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Pat25
#200
Thanks so much for sharing, that’s helpful - albeit a pity to hear. Sorry to hear it didn’t work for you.
I can totally see myself doing the same thing. It does seem to indicate some potential systemic absorption, albeit likely minimal at ‘normal’ doses.
I’ve been trying the transdermal route for 17ae2 for the last few weeks (alfatradiol + transcutol) and just had my blood drawn.
Estradiol sensitive came back high at 37.8 pg/ml, where the reference range indicates above 35pg/ml is high for a man. This is up from my previous result of 29 pg/ml six months ago. So leads me to believe the transdermal route is working.
Prolactin was low, just outside the reference range. No real change in IGF for me.
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Pat25
#202
What dose of 17-alpha estradiol and what ingredients exactly did you use, if I can ask? (Was it just transcutol + 17 alpha-estradiol, without any other ingredients that further enhanced absorption?)
This makes me reconsider, as I had considered using the 17-alpha-estradiol for my hair, but I wouldn’t want to potentially affect my estradiol levels.
It’s the Ell-Cranell Alfatradiol 250mcg/ml. I mixed with 25% transcutol and applied 2.5ml to forearm area. This should be 500mcg per day or 3.5mg/week, so close to what Bryan Johnson is doing (4mg/week)
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Radiata
#204
Any idea on the basis for that dose level? Is the 4 mg/week estimated to be longevity dose?
Do you apply it to the outer or inner forearm? Have you noticed any effects on forearm hair growth at all?