I am in Sweden and I buy from Swedish store. if that works for you, I´ll be happy to give you links to the products that I buy.
If you search for creapure there will be quite a few retailers showing up in the serach. Maybe they will be more convenient for you.
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Beth
#144
You had me nervous that all creatine wasn’t vegan, so I checked, and for those who care, con-cret creatine hci is vegan
Also, they emailed me a 15% off code for signing up for emails, so I’m sharing it here incase anyone wants to try it. (They have powder and gummies too, but for me, the beauty is the 1 capsule plan!)
Code: HELLOCsXh1n
And this was in my inbox this morning
This says it’s on diet but it’s a link to a creatine for depression article
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already posted 6 days ago in this thread with show notes
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That’s what I use. The claim is that because it is buffered, smaller dose is needed for the same absorption. It’s not any more efficacious per equivalent dose. I use a tsp (4.5 g) of Kre-Alkalyn powder which is supposed to be equivalent to 15 gm of cr. mono.
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Beth
#147
I’m all about the capsule and see that Kre-Alkalyn it’s also offered in that form.
I did a google but it’s not clear to me…
Is there any reason to choose Kre Alkayn over HCl or vice versa?
Is this just tomato vs tomahto ?
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I have a personal preference for Kre-Alkalyn. I am not saying it is better than Creapure, but creatine is a supplement I will take for a long time, Because of this I don’t want something that give me any discomfort.
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Kre-Alkalyn uses sodium bicarbonate combined with creatine monohydrate to make the creatine more pH-stable. CON-CRET makes creatine HCL (vs monohydrate). Both promise to increase absorption to allow a small dose.
Creatine is important so I’d say try everything until you find a way to get the equivalent to 5g/100 lbs of regular creatine monohydrate. CON-CRET says take 7 times less. I have inferred that Kre-Alkalyn says 3/5ths of standard dose.
I just split my monohydrate dose into many smaller doses to improve absorption. I also mix into warm but not hot (boiling / coffee) fluids. Many doses is a bother so I’m tempted to try the other forms.
Here is my interview with the founder of the only USA manufacturer of creatine. They make monohydrate and HCL (CON-CRET)
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Beth
#150
It was a great podcast and it’s how I even learned about HCL…. And that I could take ONE pill!!!
When I ordered the pills from them, I noted I learned about them through the podcast!!!
Because it’s too good to be true, I wanted to make sure it was as effective as kre-alkalyn and mono… :).
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@Beth Thanks! I have been taking creatine for 30 years (with a few gaps). I’ve been taking too little and taking it all wrong (with cold water) this entire time. Since the podcast I’ve double my dose and really focused on improving absorption. I can feel the difference. My energy level is definitely up. And I take 2x again on days when I slept badly. It makes all the difference.
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Nlo
#152
For those of us who probably won’t watch the video, do you recall any top tips or insights from the talk? TIA!
Tim
#153
You can get creatine capsules on Amazon for cheap. Two months of 5 mg/day = $25.
I see now that you ordered the capsules above.
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amuser
#154
How did you come to that conclusion?
‘Room temperature or cool liquid is fine’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-1lXqM6KWI&t=1299s
edit: OK, I listened further and then he goes along with ‘cold water is a mistake’ unless it’s HCL.
So ‘cool’ is OK, but ‘cold’ is a mistake (with monohydrate)? On the general principle that solubility improves with temperature? I would like to see a study that measures the magnitude of the difference.
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Would you think the mono-hydrate/HCL would contribute more to acid reflux than Kre-alyn?
Oh great, now it gets even more silly, one adds HCl acid, the next sodium bicarbonate base, both claiming it makes it up to three times more effective, no mentioning of stomach acid. Did you all not yet get the message that you should store all the supplements under an orgon cube in a north south aligned pyramid with golden ratio hight? Then they are all potentiated tenfold. You gotta believe it if they sell it!
Just to point out, for most blood tests, the reference ranges are designed about you not drinking before the test. When I worked in haematology, the instructions were to take blood samples on the morning and the patient should not have eaten or drank anything for at least 8 hours.
So I would question whether it’s possible that your creatinine actually is elevated, and drinking a bunch of water before the test is gaming the results and “falsely” lowering you into the normal range.
Same here. I’ve used creatine for at least 20 years, probably 10+ different brands. Creatine monohydrate simply has no taste, smell or anything else for me. The standard stuff is just like a tasteless sand. The ultra fine powder stuff is like tasteless flour.
As for the topic of the thread: I take 5g per day, every day, taken whenever. That’s what the vast vast majority of research uses and what the vast majority of athletes do. There was a whole thing about “loading” with 20g per day, but it’s not necessary. You don’t need to split doses unless 5g really upsets your stomach. There’s also no difference in taking it pre-working, post-working etc. Just take it approximately once every day. The water retention varies between people, and it’s not an unwanted adverse effect - it’s a part of the mechanism of action.
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amuser
#158
OK, so I asked my BFF, Grok. I posed my own backpacking scenario, where each morning I shoveled 5 grams of powder in my mouth, and then washed it down with a quart of water. I had it compared to the same 5g fully dissolved in 220ml water at 37c temp. The solubility is more than 2x, but that has no meaningful effect as to what is delivered into the bloodstream. The difference is miniscule.
I then asked to apply the same comparison to the ‘take one hour before weightlifting’ scenario. The ‘peak’ from the ‘shovel and wash down’ approach is perhaps a few minutes later and slightly lower than the warm water approach, but Grok estimated the impact at perhaps one tenth rep on a ten rep set.
That’s what Grok says, YMMV.
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Is this a LLM? Wouldn’t this just regurgitate a summary of info on the internet both good and bad data? Or are you able to feed in the source data you want the answer based on? My personal experience is the LLMs sound great (nice presentation) but the conclusions are only as good as the source data.
As far as creatine goes, it is one of very few supplements that actually does anything for me. Making it work better is worth more than 10 more supplements that don’t do anything as far as I can tell.
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amuser
#160
Here’s the details. What do you think? Sound legit, or no?
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Nice presentation. I have no idea if it is right except that two experts on creating have said that absorption can be a problem: when taking a lot at one time, if the creatine is not fully solubilized in the fluid, both said to take with food to get higher absorption.
These statements seem inconsistent with your LLM conclusions. I’ll go with the human being experts for now.
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