#31

Give examples of where I do that?

Reductionist and absolute thinking has led to many mistakes, which is why I avoid thinking like that

I like looking at the evidence for stuff. Clearly the “natural” approach hasn’t worked for anyone those past 300 thousend years so medicine is our best bet.

I prefer to control other factors as much as I can

Which by themselves might be required by your body. Body fat, blood sugar and inflammation are all needed in order to keep yourself alive.

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#32

I had the same reaction to statins as you did. Apparently, the science behind the improvement of the epithelial cells in the veins and arteries are not protected with statins however, it seems to have an effect on ATP, which may improve cardiovascular health.

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#33

Statins are one of the pharmaceutical industries biggest money makers. Unfortunately, scientist are human beings and subject to one of our greatest weaknesses, greed.

#34

I pay 7€ a month for my statin. If that is how Big Pharma is making most of its money while paying hundreds of millions for every clinical trial, they must be in terrible financial shape.

#35

I agree no $$ in this for pharma. Those arguments are dead. Good medical practice drives Rx’s. I can get a year supply for $20.
I personally take Atorvastatin, no noticeable adverse effects, great ApoB improvement.
If there were adverse effects, we have other options. However, I’m not convinced of the anti inflammatory and plaque stabilization effects of other agents.

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#36

Here is where I first heard of dihydroberberine

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#37

Hello, thanks for responding. I live in the United States if I were to take statins, they would cost me zero because of my insurance. However, my medical carrier pays a healthy amount and honestly, I don’t know what that is. I know that over 100 million Americans have been prescribed this medication. do the math

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#38

In the United States namebrand statins run between 200 and $500 a month times 100 million guess it’s not much of a moneymaker huh

#39

100m * 7€ = 700m€
Big Pharma combined earnings ~82b€
0.85% of Big Pharma earnings from statins.

In the United States namebrand statins run between 200 and $500 a month times 100 million guess it’s not much of a moneymaker huh

Source? And what % share of all statins prescribed go for that price?

#40

Sorry for the miscalculation. There are only 47 million Americans on statins. Two repeat the pharmaceutical companies are charging your insurance between 200 and 500 for namebrand statins. Do the math.

#41

I don’t know where you get those numbers from. All statins have gone off patent years ago.

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#42

Why don’t you familiarize yourself with the science behind lipid lowering treatments, rather than assume you can explain everything in the world with money?

#43

Because it’s obvious to anyone that’s paying attention that money not health is driving the sale of statins.

#44

Statins can be lifesavers for some people. But they are so over prescribed as to be criminal.

#45

If statins are so evil why is Trump on rosuvastatin?

But they are so over prescribed as to be criminal.

If anything, they are underprescribed. They cost jack shit (generics at least), cut down cardiovascular events in half or more and even reduce all-cause mortality.
The only reason people hate them is because youtube shills want to sell you their meme berberine supplement and that’s why they demonize the treatment that actually works. Of course conspiracy theorists eat up everything because BIG PHARMA = evil and only care about money but youtubers = saints who don’t care about money.

#46

Truth be told there is a test to determine who has small particle, dense LDL and who doesn’t. It’s never tested for instead. They just blanket everyone with this drug. The ADP connection needs to be studied before it’s given to 47 million Americans

#47

No there isn’t, because all apoB particles can easily cross cell walls. And even disregarding that, statins lower all apoB particles and increase apoA particles.

The ADP connection needs to be studied before it’s given to 47 million Americans

Or youtubers should be criminally charged for spreading misinformation.

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#48

If this is your platform for running for office, I’ll vote for you.

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#49

You don’t seem to know any science about lipid lowering treatments, so how do you know?

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#50

Please accept my exaggeration. It’s only 47 million.

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