From: https://geneticgenie.org

Genetic_Genie_Methylation_Profile_n_a.pdf (73.5 KB)

Methylation Panel

Gene & Variation rsID Alleles Result
COMT V158M rs4680 GA +/-
COMT H62H rs4633 CT +/-
COMT P199P rs769224 GG -/-
VDR Bsm rs1544410 CC -/-
VDR Taq rs731236 AA +/+
MAO-A R297R rs6323 TT +/+
ACAT1-02 rs3741049 GG -/-
MTHFR C677T rs1801133 GA +/-
MTHFR 03 P39P rs2066470 GG -/-
MTHFR A1298C rs1801131 TT -/-
MTR A2756G rs1805087 AA -/-
MTRR A66G rs1801394 GG +/+
MTRR H595Y rs10380 CC -/-
MTRR K350A rs162036 AA -/-
MTRR R415T rs2287780 CC -/-
MTRR A664A rs1802059 AA +/+
BHMT-02 rs567754 CT +/-
BHMT-04 rs617219 AC +/-
BHMT-08 rs651852 TT +/+
AHCY-01 rs819147 TT -/-
AHCY-02 rs819134 AA -/-
AHCY-19 rs819171 TT -/-
CBS C699T rs234706 GG -/-
CBS A360A rs1801181 GG -/-
CBS N212N rs2298758 GG -/-
SHMT1 C1420T rs1979277 GA +/-
Legend
Homozygous +/+
Heterozygous +/-
Normal -/-

Oh wow

MTHFR C677T can also lead to high homocysteine. High levels of homocysteine can be related to MTHFR C677T mutations.
While homozygous (+/+) or heterozygous (+/-) mutations indicates reduced activity of this enzyme, it does not necessarily
mean there will be high homocysteine levels in a clinical setting. The gene is compromised about 70% in MTHFR C677T (+/+)
individuals, and about 30% in people with a heterozygous (+/-) mutation.

I do have higher than optimal homocysteine…

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Also I do have overactive MAO-A + COMT combined, which explains so many of my issues with dopamine

"It has been clinically observed that the body may have trouble tolerating methyl donors with a COMT V158M + and a VDR Taq

  • status. VDR Taq (-/-) individuals may already have higher levels of dopamine, and combinations of variations COMT and VDR
    Taq can lead to a wide range of dopamine levels. Those that are VDR Taq (+/+) and COMT (-/-) may have lowest dopamine

levels."

^god I have low dopamine this corroborates the theory

"BHMT
BHMT (betaine homocysteine methyltransferase) acts as a shortcut through the methylation cycle helping convert
homocysteine to methionine. The activity of the enzyme can be negatively influenced by stress. The Information on this
enzyme related to methylation is mostly based on Dr. Amy Yasko’s clinical experience and research.
According to Dr. Yasko, a homozygous mutation of BHMT 01, BHMT 02, BHMT 04, can produce results similar to one with a CBS
upregulation even if you don’t have a CBS upregulation. In her book, Autism: Pathways to Recovery, She also states that a
BHMT 08 mutation may “increase MHPG levels relative to dopamine breakdown (HVA)”. This can result in attention type

symptoms. It is common to see elevated glycine in someone with a homozygous BHMT 08 mutation."

^supplementation with methyl donors also doens’t decrease my homocysteine… I have somewhat compromised BHMT function…

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Let me analyze your methylation data, focusing specifically on the genes that affect homocysteine levels.

Looking at the key genes that affect homocysteine metabolism:

  1. MTHFR C677T (rs1801133): You have GA (+/-), which means you’re heterozygous. This is significant because:
  • This results in approximately 30% reduced efficiency in the MTHFR enzyme
  • This enzyme helps convert homocysteine to methionine
  • The heterozygous mutation could potentially lead to elevated homocysteine, though not as severely as a homozygous mutation
  1. MTHFR A1298C (rs1801131): You have TT (-/-), which is normal. This is good news because:
  • This variant alone doesn’t typically affect homocysteine levels
  • Having a normal status here means this won’t compound any issues from your C677T variant
  1. MTR A2756G (rs1805087): You have AA (-/-), which is normal
  • This means your methionine synthase enzyme should be functioning normally
  • This enzyme is important for converting homocysteine to methionine
  1. MTRR A66G (rs1801394): You have GG (+/+), which means:
  • This could affect your body’s ability to properly recycle B12
  • Could potentially impact homocysteine conversion to methionine
  • May need additional B12 support
  1. CBS mutations (C699T, A360A, N212N): You have all normal (-/-) variants
  • This is generally positive for homocysteine processing
  • Means your transsulfuration pathway should be functioning normally

Key Implications:

  1. Your genetic profile suggests a MODERATE risk for homocysteine elevation, primarily due to:
  • The heterozygous MTHFR C677T mutation
  • The homozygous MTRR A66G mutation
  1. However, you have several protective factors:
  • Normal CBS function
  • Normal MTR function
  • Normal MTHFR A1298C status

Recommendations to Consider (discuss with your healthcare provider):

  1. Regular monitoring of homocysteine levels might be beneficial
  2. Support for the methylation cycle might be helpful, particularly:
  • B12 (especially methylcobalamin form due to the MTRR mutation)
  • Folate (in the methylfolate form due to the MTHFR C677T variant)

Important Note: While these genetic variants can affect homocysteine levels, they don’t guarantee high homocysteine. The only way to know your actual homocysteine levels is through blood testing. This genetic information should be used as one piece of information in conjunction with clinical testing and professional medical advice.

Let me analyze your genetic data focusing on genes that affect dopamine metabolism and levels:

  1. COMT Variants (Catechol-O-methyltransferase):
  • COMT V158M (rs4680): You have GA (+/-) heterozygous
  • COMT H62H (rs4633): You have CT (+/-) heterozygous
  • COMT P199P (rs769224): You have GG (-/-) normal

This COMT profile suggests:

  • Intermediate dopamine breakdown (between fast and slow)
  • Your COMT enzyme works at about medium efficiency for breaking down dopamine
  • You likely have moderate dopamine levels, not too high or too low
  1. MAO-A (rs6323): You have TT (+/+)
  • MAO-A helps break down several neurotransmitters including dopamine
  • Your (+/+) status suggests potentially reduced ability to break down dopamine
  • This could lead to higher dopamine levels when combined with your COMT status
  1. VDR (Vitamin D Receptor) Status:
  • VDR Taq (rs731236): You have AA (+/+)
  • VDR Bsm (rs1544410): You have CC (-/-)

This VDR profile is significant because:

  • VDR Taq (+/+) is associated with potentially lower dopamine levels
  • Vitamin D stimulates enzymes that create dopamine
  • Your VDR status might affect how your body processes and utilizes vitamin D for dopamine production

Combined Impact: Your genetic profile suggests a complex dopamine picture:

  1. Your COMT (+/-) status indicates moderate dopamine breakdown
  2. Your MAO-A (+/+) suggests potentially reduced dopamine breakdown
  3. Your VDR Taq (+/+) might contribute to lower dopamine production

This combination could mean:

  • Your dopamine levels might fluctuate more than average
  • You might experience:
    • Moderate stress response
    • Balanced cognitive performance under pressure
    • Neither extremely high nor extremely low dopamine-related behaviors

Important Considerations:

  1. These are genetic predispositions only - actual dopamine levels are influenced by many factors:
  • Diet
  • Stress levels
  • Sleep quality
  • Exercise
  • Environmental factors
  1. According to your data, you might want to pay attention to:
  • Vitamin D levels (due to VDR status)
  • Stress management (due to moderate COMT activity)
  • B-vitamin status (which affects neurotransmitter production)
  1. Signs to watch for:
  • Changes in mood
  • Focus and concentration levels
  • Stress response
  • Sleep quality
  • Cognitive performance under pressure

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does this explain why methyl donors don’t decrease my homocys

Yes, your genetic profile provides several insights into why methyl donors might not be effectively lowering your homocysteine levels. Let me break this down:

  1. Key Methylation Cycle Pattern:
  • You have MTHFR C677T (+/-) heterozygous mutation
  • MTRR A66G (+/+) homozygous mutation
  • COMT V158M (+/-) heterozygous
  • VDR Taq (+/+)

This specific combination is significant because:

  1. The MTRR A66G (+/+) mutation is particularly important here:
  • This enzyme is crucial for recycling B12
  • Your homozygous mutation means significantly reduced efficiency
  • Even if you’re taking methyl donors, without proper B12 recycling, they may not be effectively utilized
  • This could create a “bottleneck” in the methylation cycle
  1. The VDR Taq (+/+) combined with COMT (+/-) status:
  • This combination has been clinically observed to affect methyl donor tolerance
  • According to the report, “it has been clinically observed that the body may have trouble tolerating methyl donors with a COMT V158M + and a VDR Taq + status”
  • This might explain why you don’t respond well to methyl donors
  1. Methylation Cycle Implications:
  • Even though you’re providing methyl groups through supplements
  • The MTRR mutation might mean you’re not effectively recycling B12
  • Without adequate activated B12, the MTR enzyme can’t effectively use the methyl groups to convert homocysteine to methionine

Potential Solutions to Discuss with Your Healthcare Provider:

  1. B12 Strategy:
  • Consider focusing on B12 status before aggressive methyl donor supplementation
  • Might need higher doses or different forms of B12
  • Could need to address B12 recycling before methyl donors can work effectively
  1. Alternative Support:
  • Consider supporting the BHMT pathway (betaine) as an alternate route
  • Your BHMT genes show some variants that might make this pathway important
  • This provides a “backup pathway” for homocysteine metabolism
  1. Comprehensive Approach:
  • Address B12 recycling (MTRR support)
  • Consider smaller doses of methyl donors
  • Support alternate pathways (BHMT)
  • Address vitamin D status due to VDR mutations
  1. Testing Considerations:
  • Regular B12 testing (including MMA)
  • Homocysteine monitoring
  • Vitamin D levels
  • Comprehensive methylation panel

Remember: The interaction between these genes is complex, and this explanation offers insight into why simple methyl donor supplementation might not be sufficient. Working with a healthcare provider who understands methylation genetics would be valuable for developing a more targeted approach.

This genetic profile suggests you might need a more nuanced approach than just methyl donors alone - one that takes into account your specific genetic variations and their interactions. The solution might involve supporting multiple pathways and addressing B12 recycling before focusing on methyl donors.

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Where did you get the DNA Methylation test? Any recommendations?

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It looks like this one.

I did it over a year ago and here’s the screenshot I saved from mine. I just downloaded my 23 and Me raw data into genetic genie.

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how did you interpret it? I only have myheritage data… I doubt it will work. … actually it works!!! Thank you.

I have so many abnormalities!!!

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I haven’t found a good way to fully understand it as @AlexKChen posted. Perhaps he will let us in on how he did it? I have wondered if it was some type of AI?

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@adriank, I found this on Reddit fwiw for helping explain the genetic genie report.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MTHFR/s/6NaE6WJfBQ

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Honestly when I delved into all of this last year I was left with the sinking suspicion that there is a lot of contradictory and confusing information/opinions in this area. It seems difficult to find a consensus on what it all might mean or actionable steps to properly deal with these snp’s. In the end after multiple negative reactions to various supplements and going down many rabbit holes I decided my best bet would be to get abundant nutrients from real food. I now currently use a little fortified nutritional yeast and sunflower lecithin in addition to reaching at least 100% of the daily value of all nutrients in cronometer I seem to be doing fine. I do have one chronically cracked finger nail that resolved when I was on r-5-p so I might add that back in at some point. Best wishes @adriank. If you find anything helpful please share!

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It’s because the information is pretty much misleading or misreported, complex traits are polygenic, it’s not possible to determine anything from 1 or 2 genes or a list of them, all that exist are required
and need to be summed together

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Thank you kindly sir.

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