You have mentioned aspirin under the “now we know better” category about its safety/usefulness
Blockquote
Another one of those drugs that was passed around like candy, it should be used for specific indications.
2 Likes
Oh wow, another distortion, taking bits of my unrelated posts and stitching them out of context.
I thought we made it clear that you should ignore my posts because I don’t care to argue with someone who’s foaming at their mouth. I have enough borderline personality disorders I have to deal with in my practice, but at least I get paid for that.
STAY AWAY. I already told you once.
5 Likes
Aspirin is a well studied drug. Not a supplement. Just because it is easily available does not undermine its efficacy. It is useful for various conditions, least of which may be for heart disease. Many people on this forum have chosen to drop it and add it back based on recent studies. Can you offer clarity or not on risk/reward usage?
2 Likes
约瑟夫
#64
FWIW
There is a way to block(for your view/reading] posting you do not “care for”
A member posted how on a thread on this forum.
Find and repost?
1 Like
Aspirin is a well studied drug. Not a supplement
I never said it was. In fact this came up when we were discussing statins.
Just because it is easily available does not undermine its efficacy.
I have never ever said that it does.
It is useful for various conditions, least of which may be for heart disease.
I posted that twice already - it should be used for a GOOD INDICATION.
Many people on this forum have chosen to drop it and add it back based on recent studies. Can you offer clarity or not on risk/reward usage?
Everyone should make their own decision based on their situation and after a discussion with their doctor.
I was simply making a point that doctors are more careful in recommending aspirin for their patients because of the risk was underestimated and benefit overestimated in the past. THAT IS ALL.
3 Likes
Ah, one can only hope they are as harmless as a placebo. There is already mounting evidence that are NOT necessarily harmless. Unfortunately only very large studies can tease those small effects out.
The case studies especially presented by people on this forum who likely already live an incredibly healthy lifestyle by American standards are not very helpful.
It reminds of this News story.
I wonder how many people on this forum would take up drinking whiskey based on that claim. 
3 Likes
That would be helpful. I looked for the block/ignore feature in my settings, on the post setting and on “their” profile and could not find any such feature.
At the same time I would like to be able to defend myself against any slander posted, so maybe it’s for the best.
1 Like
To mute someone, or ignore their posts, just click on their avatar, then click on as below in the image and choose “mute” or “ignore” on the right side under the message button. Let me know if you have any problems on this (I’ve never used it).
3 Likes
I appreciate your response. I would say in my “situation” aspirin has been very valuable with long-term use. And broadly as an anti-aging drug. My view is that its benefits have not been overestimated but I still seek clarity about its risks so it can be used safely. I have a great doctor and certainly will ask her opinion. But I think like most general practitioners she wouldn’t offer a view for anti-aging.
3 Likes
You definitely should discuss it. I can tell you one thing we see a lot in medicine is that aspirin having a very potent anti-platelet effect can exacerbate bruising, especially in older white females, where it can lead to hematomas in case of a fall. Large hematomas in addition to being painful can lead to infection and vascular thrombosis…bad news.
3 Likes
Neo
#71
Betty, below post might be helpful. There might be a time period of are when it is better to take that other times (too you or two old).
@Dr.Bart - was are your thoughts on below, in context of cancer prevention and for someone younger than 60?
Click here: Strategies to avoid the grim reaper of Cancer - Part I: Colon Cancer - #23 by Neo
1 Like
I think the ACG approach is very reasonable. It takes comorbid conditions, actual risk of CC and possible risk factors of aspirin into consideration.
Guidelines for low-dose aspirin use
Both the USPSTF and the American College of Gastroenterology (ACG) agree that for a select group of people, the benefits of daily low-dose aspirin use outweigh the risks. Before recommending a low-dose aspirin regimen, your primary care provider will look at all of the following factors:
Your risk of cardiovascular disease
The USPSTF only recommends low-dose aspirin for people who have a 10% or greater 10-year cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk. According to Dr. Rezapour, the reason for this guideline is two-fold. People with that CVD risk are:
-
Likely to already be taking baby aspirin: Aspirin can reduce risk of cardiovascular complications, so many people with an increased risk are already on a low-dose aspirin regimen. Studies show the benefits of aspirin already outweigh the risks for this population.
-
At a higher risk for colon cancer: Patients who have an increased risk of CVD often have other issues associated with increased inflammation, such as diabetes, obesity or hypertension. Those other issues increase the risk for colorectal cancer.
Personally, I don’t fit that criteria. More importantly though, I can achieve way more (all four Attia’s horseman and beyond) by focusing on dietary habits. There are ton studies on its effects on colon cancer, but you are also hitting nearly all cancers and diseases of aging with a proper diet.
I didn’t really look closely at that 40% reduction study, by I wonder if they still would achieve 40% reduction if tested this on people that eat like old timer Sardinians or Okinawans. I can see that aspirin can reduce the “inflammation” in people that eat like crap, but what about super healthy people that have minimal inflammation ? My guess one probably wouldn’t see that much difference. Certainly not enough to warrant the risk of aspirin.
1 Like
Neo
#73
Thanks for perspectives
On this part I do wonder if it is lowering the risk side too though.
For instance both Attia and Johnson are generally super healthy, but their medical teams think they should be on it
In Johnson’s case, just 3 times a week.
1 Like
Attia’s has early family history of CAD death, uncle died in his 40s from MI. I would probably take 81mg if I was Attia. Kind of no brainer there, surprised that he even deliberated on this for so long. It shows you how careful and methodical he is. I respect Attia greatly for those reasons.
Johnson just seems like he does the kitchen sink, frankly I don’t follow him.
The whole blood exchange menage a trois with his son and father is very weird. I mean, even if it actually was clinically effective, I wouldn’t be able to ask my son… to share his blood. What if the old blood harms the young donor, the same way young blood purportedly benefits the old recipient. Why get your son involved in your experiments?
He is a product of “I got too much money and time on my hands.”
4 Likes
Neo
#75
Got it re Attia - so then we should add family history as a meaningful factor even if we as an individual are doing all things well and right (sleep, diet, exercise and reaching low Apo B, low inflammation, etc).
(Re Johnson, I don’t think his son or anyone got older person’s blood - was just son to dad and dad to granddad)
4 Likes
Thanks for the head’s up Neo - My name is Steve. Bettywhitetest is an obscure Internet reference. A video where the author says he will believe in age reversal when Betty White looks 30 years old. (of course this was before she passed away)
5 Likes
I guess you are not the older white female as I imagined.
2 Likes
That’s the truth! But the older part and winter white pale is relevant 
Yet I really appreciate you parsing out the sort of information (like anti-platelet effect and bruising - hematomas) that could occur with aspirin use, even if more likely in females. Its all good.
3 Likes
LaraPo
#79
It took me one year to finally agree to take my son’s kidney. If not that transplant, I would not survive the dialysis. I still have nightmares and guilt about it.
5 Likes
LaraPo
#80
I think I also called you Betty. Nice to know that you are Steve 
4 Likes
