That sounds very plausible however I lost 5lb.

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Please please please share the RF microneedling device you use. Is it painful? TY

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Hi I am interested in both your laser and RF equipment. Please let us know what you are using. Where are you located in the country? Thanks for all your great input!

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I find weekly Rapamycin not ideal. Every other week makes more sense (vs mice experiments). Rapa stays in your system for ~2 weeks anyways. So every other week is giving enough time for your body take a break.

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Don’t suppose your water intake increased drastically did it? @medaura
Curious how much impact more water, sunlight and and good old olive oil can have… (assuming all three of these increased during your trip)?

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$36,000 to $60,000 for one I think most here will pass. I prefer my at least four days a week of bike riding out in the country where the air is much fresher. Seems to work for me and much cheaper.

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What’s $35,000 - $60,000?

The used professional RF micro needling devices (on ebay).

Can you please point us towards the device you use?

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OK I’m finally sitting down at the laptop and looking through my order history. Something about AliExpress that seems quite messed up to me is that contrary to Amazon, where vendors optimize ONE page for hopefully the highest conversions and then would never want to lose the link as it gains SEO momentum, on Ali product links expire all the time while the same product can pop in from the same or different vendors under the same or different price but CERTAINLY different link and SKU. So some of the products I bought have “expired” and I had to hunt them down again at the best prices I could find:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DmoogB5

That’s the RF microneeding device. It comes with a handful of disposable heads but they run at around $5 beyond that. Used every 4 weeks you see the marginal cost of consumables is almost nothing. There are more heavy duty, professional devices out there, for example google “Morpheus 8” treatment and you’ll see. That device costs more and it’s more powerful but also easier to get injured by. Someone dishing out hundreds of dollars per treatment at a med spa or the like would probably wan to get more bang for their buck but I am of the opinion that it’s better to do the gentler treatment every 4 weeks for a year straight and beyond, then do a handful of Morpheus 8 treatments and run out of $$ runway. Longer down time too. But still, the super powerful device only costs near $1700, and not $35,000!

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkJV7Hz

I’d order the above if I wanted the best of the best but I am satisfied with my simpler device.

As to my Q Switched ND Yag laser, the model I have is now outdated, so I can only find the latest version. Here you go:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dl0hSmT

It’s gentle and non ablative, with different heads for 1064nm, 537 nm and another one too. I don’t know if this is what Bryan Johnson is getting for his weekly laser sessions but if his skin team is smart, it should be. My only problem has been sticking to the weekly schedule. I find excuses to not do it as often but the results on my lips are encouraging so lately I’ve been more diligent (You can’t or rather shouldn’t micro needle lips).

I own and really like this device but I found a time limited special and paid less. This is the price now and 90% of the time:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dd4qFAB

I use it on non-fibroblast mode because I have kids to pick up from school and can’t handle looking like I got eccentric tattoos on my face even for a few days. If downtime weren’t a factor I’d totally use the fibroblast mode. I use the tightening tip and the permeability enhancer heads currently and they absolutely work. I’m getting even more improvement around my eyelids. But it’s slower going, can be used every 72 hours. If money was no object, or less of an object, I would buy this device as it’s the cream of the crop and even uses genuine cold plasma with no thermal effects:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dnsv8lv

I’ve used simple RF devices in the past with good results but mostly on the body. I also had some modest improvement on the face but to be frank I just couldn’t stick with the regular weekly use I was supposed to invest in it. None of this stuff works on you by collecting dust on the counter. Around Xmas I have my eye on this device:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDo4svt

Look up TECAR / Indiba on google scholar and you’ll see why I’m interested.

Well I’m actually torn between the above and this – it’s the best high intensity focused ultrasound machine I’ve seen in the market so far:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkZIg4n

Got a lot more devices but these are the heavy hitters for skin that I use regularly or swear I would if I owned them :wink:

I also have a red + infrared light panel that my husband might love even more than I do – gets used daily.

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Someone posted this above. 2022 Vivace RF Microneedling Device | eBay thats where I saw the $34,000 price.

Sunlight I got definitely more of during the trip. Water intake was unchanged and I am from the Mediterranean (the country in question is my native land) so I use olive oil heavily in the US too. Also note that this is a trip I’ve been taking yearly since 2020 where remote work made it possible to spend a few weeks there at a time. I always eat well there but they have amazing pastas and pizzas and desserts to boot so let’s just say this year I made much healthier choices in that regard. Still, I’m pretty sure I would not have experienced this noteworthy perkup effect if I hadn’t been on my regimen of supplements prior to the trip, or done all this work to my face at home on the RF micro needling + red light front.

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Friends don’t let friends pay retail. :wink:

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For the Alibaba neophytes in the crowd, like myself, what exactly does the cost of that first device (C$553.92) translate to… first of all, is that Chinese Yuan? would the equivalent cost in US $ be something like $80? Seems too cheap.

Can you just pay by credit card? How did the transaction go for you, delivery time, and product functionality (did it work as planned, easy to get using, confusing manuals?? as is typical for Chinese sourced domestic market product).

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Oh that’s another eccentricity of AliBaba/ AliExpress. For mysterious reasons once in a while it converts all prices to a foreign currency whose choice seems random to me. I missed the C before $, and wonder whether it means Canadian Dollar? Let me see if I can find one in US dollars.

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkS5FKf

That’s $419.

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I always pay via PayPal for double protection. Have been shopping there since 2017 and have rarely been disappointed. Almost never on big ticket transactions. Delivery time is a function of delivery method. Some vendors use dhl or ups for large items. You’ll see the shipping method before checkout and sometimes there’s choices. I always opt for something with tracking unless it’s a very low price item that I don’t care when or if I get it, really.

For example for the product in my last link:

I find those estimates reliable.

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Is this the same? Hard to tell when they all use same stock photos… https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805814188299.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.c12d38daIe4Imb&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
Thanks!

Yes it’s the same but be careful what you’re selecting there as a variation.

Not sure what that make-up-the-difference is. Need to select the machine itself.

Yeah I was confused about that… though when you add the $198 item to cart it says RF machine in cart… What about that second handle? It says “cryo tip” is that not needed? your link has just one handle. Thanks so mcuh.

Mine has both handles. The cryo tip is basically a cooling treatment to bring down inflammation post treatment. Or as partial anesthesia pre treatment. I’d get both but it’s not absolutely necessary. The way that listing is set up looks a bit suspicious though. I’d ask the seller what’s what before pulling the trigger.

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Good point, thanks! I’m reading that inconsistent/improper heating can case unwanted face volume/fat loss with RF. That’s why all articles urge one to pay top professionals (partial eye roll). I’m very into DIY but just curious - you had no concerns re: inconsistent heating with this device? can it be finetuned?