intrpr8
#47
There is value in figuring out what diet suits you the best, short and long term. The latter becomes a bit more nebulous. The same long-term concerns could easily be said for our longevity self-experimentations!
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blsm
#48
I agree. We change and our needs change over time so it’s crucial to be open minded, willing to experiment and change course if needed.
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blsm
#49
I didn’t expect to fail again so quickly but it happened. Yesterday I basically ate primarily plant based besides some egg whites because I’m a sucker for experimenting. I crashed pretty hard and today my bp has been in the 80/50 range all day so it’s a repeat of what happened last year. I just can’t muster the energy to do anything with my bp tanked so I’ve had only carnivore foods today and hopefully I make a turnaround soon. I’m going to focus on leaner choices this time around and just see how it goes. Last year it helped improve my bp quickly but in hindsight I ate way too much fat and my body composition was gradually going in the wrong direction. I’ll admit to being a little disappointed but I guess there are worse problems.
blsm
#51
@AnUser, I went when it was happening last year and got tested for Addison’s disease. It ended up being a very expensive nightmare with no definitive results, another test was ordered where they inject you with insulin while fasting and the hospital couldn’t tell me the cost so I didn’t have it done because I still owed money for the first test. I ended up with an rx for florinef which while it worked I didn’t particularly enjoy taking it due to side effects. My husband and dad both encouraged me to go back to eating carnivore (they are not carnivore btw) when all of that was happening because they said from their point of view I did much better eating that way. I followed their advice because they are the two people who know me the best and I didn’t have anything to lose. I told my doctor about it at my follow up visit and he was fine with it. He just said to take a multivitamin. I do have insurance and did at the time that happened last year but the coverage isn’t great unfortunately. I will probably pursue getting the testing done though because I’d really like to know.
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If this is not BS, then I feel I am a distant; also ran.
https://twitter.com/SBakerMD/status/1695344139011866934?s=20
9h
Shawn, are you being serious? Is she really 82?
Dr Shawn Baker 
@SBakerMD
Yes
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The guy right next to her is 152 and has been on the vegan diet ever since he fought in WW1.
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Agetron
#54
No, seriously, look at her hands if you enlarge the image. Those are definitely the hands of somebody in their 80s.
Probably a little photo shopping on the chin and neck.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Nir Barzili mentioned that one of the consistent things they have found with centenarians is that their diet had no impact at all on their longevity. Centenarians seemed as protected from good dietary habits as they did bad.
She looks fantastic for her age, but suggesting that it’s solely down to diet is a huge leap.
There’s any number of reasons why she’s so well preserved and my guess is that even if her diet was additive there’s a lot more going on at the genetic level and environmental level.
Reading some of the comments thread on the interview is shocking.
While the science isn’t there yet, the very least you can do is to test your genes and find your own baseline or you’re shooting in the dark.
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blsm
#58
It’s a great interview. She’s been very active ranching most of her life and lived in a pretty pristine environment. She looks older in the video compared to the picture but still great for her age. She admits to always being tall and lean and even was able to pass for a boy as a teenager to do a specific job girls were not allowed to do back then.
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AnUser
#59
Carnivore diet is a fad diet according to Wikipedia.
According to Google Trends very few people follow it as well.
I really enjoyed my Med meal of whole grain bread, hummus, Kalamata olives, tomatoes, EVOO, salt+pepper. Randomized controlled trials suggest such way of eating is healthy.
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LaraPo
#60
There are only 2 fingers visible - not enough to determine age, and the image is blurry. She’s not 82 for sure.
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OK folks - lets not get into the diet wars here 
Plenty of research on all sides of this debate, and lots of questionable, correlational studies too, and anecdotes galore. Find a diet that works for you and don’t proselytize!
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AnUser
#62
We’re 61 posts into this topic and not one single study has been posted yet on the carnivore diet.
Why do people try something without any research - or studies?
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For me, my current carnivore diet is an experiment. I have tried many diets over the years including vegetarian. Because the term “carnivore diet” is relatively new there is a scarcity of research using this term. Carnivore is almost exactly like the Atkin’s diet which has been fairly heavily researched. As far as I am concerned all of the guru MDs including some vocal cardiologists are just advocating the Atkins diet under a different name. So, just research the papers on the pros and cons of the Atkin’s diet. I am not promoting any diet for others.
"What are the basic foods for the Atkins diet?
meats: beef, pork, lamb, chicken, bacon, and others.
fatty fish and seafood: salmon, trout, sardines, and mackerel.
eggs: omega-3 enriched or pastured — most nutrient-dense (16)
low-carb vegetables: kale, spinach, broccoli, asparagus, and others.
full-fat dairy: butter, cheese, cream, full fat yogurt."
On close examination of the gurus promoting a carnivore diet, they all eat some carbs. So they are basically doing Atkin’s.
So, I am among the very few on a pure carnivore diet. After I have been on this diet for a long enough time to influence my blood work, I will decide if it’s right for me.
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I mean… everyone here is trying rapa without any definitive studies on its effect on human aging. We’re all hoping that the mouse studies translate into effects on humans.
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I’m not even a vegan but that’s literally a strawman argument.
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