I have a friend whose mother is a hypochondriac. She has been to the doctor every month and gets a clean bill of health each time. Yet she still says something is wrong with her.

I was thinking GLYNAC may be able to alleviate the hypochondriac behavior, but is there anything better that might do the trick? Thanks.

ā€œSupplements for Hypochondriacā€ā€¦ made me immediately think ā€œplacebos!ā€.:joy:
Ok, sorry, not the joke section here now, is it. Seriously, it is a form of anxiety, no? I would be surprised there are supplements yet more targeted as necessary to differentiate between different manifestations of anxiety. Also, some old people become hypochondriacs because doctor visits and all that provide for social interactions.

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Yes. I guess supplements for anxiety would help the most. Suggestions?

It might works
https://www.fagron.be/fr-be/placebo-500-mg-comprimes-50-pcs-1815748

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SAMe might help with a sense of well being? I personally haven’t tried it so can’t speak to its effectiveness but I’ve heard it works and is harmless ?

Is your friend sure that is simply what it is? I ask as someone who didn’t feel great for years, but there was nothing to find in my bloodwork.

After my first covid injection, I felt very off for several weeks, to the point of not driving. My PT came over and reset my autonomic system and I was fine within 10 minutes… so maybe there is someone like that she could see. At the very least, she might get a little something out of a visit with a healer.

There could be something there, but the current belief is due to hypochondria.

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I made an edit after you replied… is there some sort of great healer your friend can find? Something could actually be fixed, but at the very least, it might be pleasant for her, and even a placebo effect.

My ā€˜healer’ happens to be my PT.

Seems like a very difficult thing to deal with. Appears to be anxiety based?

Perhaps CBT would help?

For anxiety related issues I’d try Selank

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Psychological help seems likely to be beneficial:

Cognitive Behavior Therapy for HypochondriasisA Randomized Controlled Trial

Arthur J. Barsky, MD; David K. Ahern, PhD

Author Affiliations

JAMA. 2004;291(12):1464-1470. doi:10.1001/jama.291.12.1464

Abstract

Context Hypochondriasis is a chronic, distressing, and disabling condition that is prevalent in ambulatory medical practice. Until recently, no specific treatment has been clearly demonstrated to be effective.

Objective To assess the efficacy of a cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) for hypochondriasis.

Design A randomized, usual care control group design, conducted between September 1997 and November 2001. The individual primary care physician was the unit of randomization, and all patients clustered within each physician’s practice were assigned to the experimental treatment (individual CBT and a consultation letter to the primary care physician) or to the control condition. Subjects were assessed immediately before and 6 and 12 months after the completion of treatment.

Setting and Participants Participants were 80 patients from primary care practices and 107 volunteers responding to public announcements, all of whom exceeded a predetermined cutoff score on a hypochondriasis self-report questionnaire on 2 successive occasions.

Intervention A scripted, 6-session, individual CBT intervention was compared with medical care as usual. The CBT was accompanied by a consultation letter sent to the patient’s primary care physician.

Main Outcome Measures Hypochondriacal beliefs, fears, attitudes, and somatic symptoms; role function and impairment.

Results A total of 102 individuals were assigned to CBT and 85 were assigned to medical care as usual. The sociodemographic and clinical characteristics of the 2 groups were similar at baseline. Using an intent-to-treat analytic strategy, a consistent pattern of statistically and clinically significant treatment effects was found at both 6- and 12-month follow-up, adjusting for baseline covariates that included educational level, generalized psychiatric distress, and participant status (patient vs volunteer). At 12-month follow-up, CBT patients had significantly lower levels of hypochondriacal symptoms, beliefs, and attitudes (P<.001) and health-related anxiety (P = .009). They also had significantly less impairment of social role functioning (P = .05) and intermediate activities of daily living (P<.001). Hypochondriacal somatic symptoms were not improved significantly by treatment.

Conclusion This brief, individual CBT intervention, developed specifically to alter hypochondriacal thinking and restructure hypochondriacal beliefs, appears to have significant beneficial long-term effects on the symptoms of hypochondriasis.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/198437

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CBT is a great tool for many issues.

Hypochondria can arise from anxiety which is usually on spectrum with depression.

Creatinine has clinical data suggesting improvement in depression. Moreover, it’s safe and has other benefits as well.

So basically safe, effective and PLACEBO.

Other considerations:
ashwagandha
Omega-3

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Just because they couldn’t find anything doesn’t mean there isn’t something wrong with her. It might help to narrow down her search what she actually feels is wrong and go from there.

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Learn something new every day here :slight_smile:

Dose range in the 3 to 7mg per day and seems to have a sweet spot in the 4 to 5mg range when combined with SSRI’s.

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@Steve_Combi Creatinine, creatine, cretine, mg, g, kg, no problem

Everyone’s unique and we also all know what our own bodies and what it feels like being us, but the hypochondria is a form of anxiety and would benefit from some form of therapy. I’m not a huge fan of CBT as it’s a bit like sticking a band aid on a gaping wound. I will say that this persons symptoms might be very real and our brains along with stress, anxiety, depression can result in all sort of physical symptoms. I’ll leave you with a quote I heard recently which resonated with me, ā€˜The unlived life can make a person sick.’

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