My father-in-law has been battling stage 4 pancreatic cancer for just over 2 years. It appears the chemotherapy is no longer working. Does anyone have any suggestions of anything that he can try to slow the cancer down? The doctors say that it is terminal and slowing it down is the best we can do.
Would Rapamycin help?
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Neo
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I have read that a sirt6 activator might help slow down the cancer?
Anyone know what Dr. B is taking for his stage 4 cancer?
AnUser
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Michael Gregorās grandfather died of pancreatic cancer. Which mean he mightāve invested more time to learn about it.
Heās a semi-psuedoscientist talking the virtues of a WFPB diet, if I had cancer other than using conventional treatments I would look at his website what other things might work for cancer survival, i.e look at breast cancer and other cancers too. I would mostly focus on diet first unless I had more time to look into other things.
His website is āNutritionFactsā, which is videos about studies, mostly associative with claims from the discussion portion of the studiesā¦
https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=cancer
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Some cancers are at least partially epigenetic in form. It may be that sufficient citrate will actually hold back the cancer. (sufficient being at least 4g per day probably more). I donāt know, however.
This paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05820-3
Implies some form of link between aberrant splicing and pancreatic cancer.
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A lawyer friend who is currently going through treatment for pancreatic cancer suggested this website:
https://www.cancerpatientlab.org
He says there are many other options that doctors in the US donāt currently use. In fact heās flying from the US to Japan to get treatment.
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RPS
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@medaura mentioned in the PEMF topic that this can kill off cancer cells.
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Curious
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It is said that Steve Jobs was heavily into alternative treatments for his pancreatic cancer. it is said that he held his cancer at bay for quite some time. I do not know what type of C he had or if it is relevant now. But I am sure he got the best alternatives that money can buy. This might not be relevant but his fight can also be a lead to possible alternativs.
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I have not tried to study all the various types of cancer. I know that some depend upon aberrant splicings (for which Citrate would be helpful). HDAC inhibition also helps in terms of fighting cancer, but that probably also operates through preventing aberrant splicings and the HDAC inhibitors I use are probably too weak to help here. Melatonin is also suggested at times, but I am not sure what the mechanism is for this.
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Metformin synergizes with rapamycin to inhibit the growth of pancreatic cancer in vitro and in vivo - PMC Rapamycin and metformin, has been shown to stop cancer cells, pancreatic cancer cells, in vitro, and in vivo testing. Sorry to hear this about your father-in-law. I hope this is useful to him this information.
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In Attiaās book,{I have the audio version] he spoke/wrote about a person he knows personal who used an āoff labelā treatment that put the PC into remission. The treat gave the person permanent type 1 diabetes.
Just doing a "chemotherapy"treatment, not knowing if it will work, such as test the chemotherapy agentās on the cancer cell/cell line a person is not good.
Review
Dr. Robert A. Nagourney, MD is the oncologist to see before any chemotherapy.
Review his work and you will understand why.
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Bicep
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ALA and LDN, surprisingly:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1534735409352082
Donāt forget pectasol, itās a no brainer, expensive though. Also I still believe the Fen ben stuff.
Prayers,
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KarlT
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Enjoy every day and dont do a treatment that will make you feel llike crap.
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diane
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Here are 2 articles on using quercetin for pancreatic cancer: Quercetin improves pancreatic cancer chemo-sensitivity by regulating oxidative-inflammatory networks - PubMed and Quercetin Impact in Pancreatic Cancer: An Overview on Its Therapeutic Effects - PubMed.
Many bioflavonoids are known to help prevent cancer, but quercetin specifically is known to overcome chemotherapy resistance for many types of established cancer. I like the reliable company Thorne for their Quercetin Phytosome formulation which is better absorbed.
All best to your father in law and your entire family.
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JuanDaw
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Johns Hopkins has been able to slow the progression of pancreatic cancer in mice.
Many here are trying to prolong their lives with rapamycin, based on mouse studies. Mebendazole has been used in mice to slow down pancreatic cancer. Mebendazole is related to fenbendazole, the dog anti-helmintic used by Joe Tippens. Mebendazole is the human antihelmintic.
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Iām sorry for what your father-in-law is going through. I had stage 3 kidney cancer but luckily surgery was able to remove it (four years clear thus far).
In my desire to prevent spread of anything left, I started a keto diet (an actual āhealthyā keto diet, not a gym bro keto diet with keto cookies and ice cream and five pounds of bacon a day). There is a professor at Boston College named Thomas Seyfried who supposedly has good results/luck with ketosis diet and exogenous) combined with traditional cancer treatments. Iāve never spoken with him but have heard a number of talks heās given. I certainly donāt want to waste your time with doing research on a far-fetched idea, but if it were me (and it was) Iād consider this on my research list. As an aside I recommended this to a family friend who has terminal cancer and this person said āno way Iām gonna change my diet for anythingā so even if this is effective it may not be for everyone. Just my thought.
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Gidget
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My brother in law had stage for cancer of the lungs and Iāve forgotten how long he has been cancer free but he has a YouTube channel of the steps he took https://www.youtube.com/@tumourfreetim/videos
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Arhu
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Sometimes we just have to accept that our lives are finite and trying to prolong it just extends misery.
Best of luckā¦
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Curious
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I have tried to learn more about steve jobs, but what actions he took is not public. And some say that his alternative treatments could have been detrimental to him?
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KarlT
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How long has he been cancer free?