FYI. Unlike lithium and sodium, magnesium levels in the blood are actually increased by SGLT2i. I may be overdosing magnesium as I have overlooked this factor until now!

SGLT2 inhibitors have emerged as potential treatment options for hypomagnesemia in patients with type 2 diabetes. Data analysis performed on randomized controlled trials has demonstrated increased serum magnesium levels with SGLT2 inhibitors as a class effect in patients with type 2 diabetes compared with placebo.

Empagliflozin (25 mg) appears to reduce Magnesium excretion in urine by 50%.

It appears to have no effect on potassium, calcium, albumin, or creatinine.

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Based on my symptoms of dehydration when I started taking empagliflozin, it could be I now have too much magnesium in my blood. Iā€™ll be reducing my magnesium intake to see if this helps with my increased thirstiness.

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with stuff like Mg, Na, K, Ca,ā€¦, is not whether you sweat much (sauna, exercise, living in HK) one of the most important factors to be considered? So that should make it very difficult to guess levels without measurements.

Great find, Chris! However, as you know, the devil is in the details. The study you cited showed that the magnesium level elevations caused by SGLT2iā€™s are not limited to diabetics. Thatā€™s very important. But I see one significant limitation here - all four cases discussed in that study was in individuals who were severely magnesium depleted (as a result of cancer treatment meds etc.). So they all had strong hypomagnesia. Are we sure that if they had normal levels of serum magnesium, the SGLT2is would have the same effect on magnesium levels? Itā€™s the old black box problem - the inputs are different.

But is this merely speculation, or is there reason to perhaps think that there may be something to my observation? I think yes, there may be, given the evidence below:

SGLT2 inhibitors increase low serum magnesium levels in patients with chronic kidney disease immediately after treatment

The key passage is here, which I bolded:

"Results: Median eGFR and mean serum Mg2+ at baseline were 33.5 mL/min/1.73 m2 and 2.03 mg/dL, respectively. Treatment with SGLT2 inhibitors significantly increased serum Mg2+ levels immediately from 1 month after treatment compared with those at baseline and persisted over 6 months, with an overall mean change of 0.13 mg/dL from baseline to 6 months. This increased effect was observed in the low and middle tertile subgroups, but not in the high tertile subgroup. Multivariate linear regression analysis revealed that baseline serum Mg2+ levels and sodium-chloride differences, as a parameter of acid-base status, were independently associated with these changes.

Conclusions: SGLT2 inhibitors increased serum Mg2+ levels in patients with CKD, particularly those with lower baseline Mg2+ levels, potentially improving their prognosis."

So, they broke down the patients into three groups with different levels of serum magnesium. The SGLT2i had a strong impact of elevating the magnesium levels in those with low levels at baseline but they did not have this effect on those with a higher level of magnesium at baseline.

Note that in the study you cited, they didnā€™t have anybody with higher levels of magnesium, so that effect of the SGLT2i elevating magnesium levels was present in those with severely low baseline levels of magnesium - that study said NOTHING about what happens if you have adequate levels of magnesium, do the SGLT2i still elevate your magnesium levels? The study I cited might imply that this doesnā€™t happen. How is that possible? Well, we do know that for example, SGLT2i are able to only get rid of glucose if the glucose levels exceed a certain threshold - itā€™s not like they simply get rid of glucose regardless of levels and you end up hypoglycemic. Similarly, it could be that SGLT2i only hold onto magnesium from urine if the levels are low, but donā€™t do so if the levels are adequate or high. I donā€™t know that this is the case, but I can see how the mechanism could work like that. Now, the study I cited also has some limitations, such as for example this being patients with chronic kidney disease, so we donā€™t know if itā€™s applicable to those with healthy kidneys. Also, I unfortunately donā€™t have access to the full paper.

But in line with the black box model, we canā€™t be sure that this finding is relevant to us - people who are not diabetic, donā€™t have kidney disease and have adequate/high levels of serum magnesium.

Meanwhile, here is a very interesting study - with the limitation that itā€™s in diabetic patients! - which tackles that question at greater length:

Elevated serum magnesium associated with SGLT2 inhibitor use in type 2 diabetes patients: a meta-analysis of randomised controlled trials

Itā€™s worth reading that study. Two key things I extracted from it.

1)First, there are strong individual differences between the specific SGLT2i in the respect of affecting blood electrolites: canagliflozin, empagliflozin, dapagliflozin, ipragliflozin. Worth noting!

2)The magnesium elevating effect is real, but not large - this is summed up as (my bold):

ā€œSGLT2 inhibitors marginally increased serum magnesium levels in type 2 diabetes patients indicating a drug class effect. Further investigations are required to examine the clinical significance of elevated magnesium levels in individuals with type 2 diabetes.ā€

Now, the question is: for individuals who are NOT diabetic, and who have adequate/high levels of serum magnesium, is the possible marginal further elevation of magnesium of some SGLT2i, a cause for concern? Does it mean that we should cut back on supplementing with magnesium given our situation?

Because what is the effect of higher magnesium levels in the blood? Here is a relevant passage from that study I cited above:

ā€œAbnormally high magnesium levels are predictive of total mortality in individuals with heart failure [22], those who are critically ill [23] and those receiving haemodialysis [24]. Therefore, caution must be exercised in patients with impaired renal function, such as in severe CKD. On the other hand, both in the general population and in people with type 2 diabetes, a gradient of risk for cardiovascular disease has been observed across the normal range of serum magnesium [25], with concentrations at the higher end of the normal range associated with a lower risk of cardiovascular events [25]. Our meta-analysis found that a mean increase of 0.05 mmol/l in serum magnesium was significantly associated with a reduction in systolic BP by 2.00 mmHg and diastolic BP by 1.78 mmHg compared with placebo [26]. If serum magnesium is causally related to cardiovascular risk, a modest increase in serum magnesium could have contributed to a reduction in cardiovascular mortality observed among participants with type 2 diabetes in the EMPA-REG OUTCOME trial [19]. However, the observed changes in serum magnesium levels were, on average, within the physiological range. We do not know what proportion of individuals have serum magnesium levels above the normal range, and therefore, the clinical significance/interpretation of these data is uncertain.ā€

In summary, the issue is murky. For people in our situation, specifically for people with already high levels of magnesium - close or at the upper reference range - do SGLT2i (specific the one you are using, they are all different!) elevate the magnesium levels further into abnormal territory, and what are the consequences of that, or do they not do so, per the first study in Japan that I cited, where those with higher level of magnesium experienced no further elevation from SGLT2i use.

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Holy crap, good find. Same as you, I use Magnesium L Threonate nightly and had to cut back recently because my dreams have gotten really intense and itā€™s been actually affecting my sleep negatively. This has been going on for months. Thanks for sharing that.

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Iā€™m glad you made a thread about this. I posted about this in the massive SGLT2 thread but itā€™s completely buried in there. I think this topic deserves itā€™s own thread.

Another great benefit and under-discussed benefit of SGLT2ā€™s.

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Thanks for sharing! I have been planning to add a SGLT2 or Acarbose to my protocol this year. Any reason why you have choosen empagliflozin instead of canagliflozin? I have not yet read in to the topic but currently I lean towards canagliflozin.

@AmyK wrote this interesting thing on X recently:

It was a presentation to our Longevity Docs community by integrative cardiologist Dr Abid Husain. He makes the case for canagliflozin being better for general longevity because it has less specificity to SGLT2 (it also affects SGLT1). He uses empagliflozin more for cardiac patients.
Source: x.com

This is also one post from Peter Attia on X:

Acarbose is interesting and was successful in the ITP (I was surprised by this). I would put canagliflozin ahead of it, though. Not only was it successful in the ITP, but the human data is more impressive.
Source: x.com

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The research which @adssx posts usually favors empagliflozin over canagliflozin for various benefits. Canagliflozin also has some side effects which are not good. However, Canagliflozin has the ITP data backing it up whereas empagliflozin does not as they havenā€™t tested it. If the longevity benefits come from SGLT2I, then empagliflozin should be fine. However if the longevity benefits come from SGLT1, then only canagliflozin would work.

I can completely understand why some people would choose Canagliflozin due to the ITP data.

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One Chinese study found life extension with empagliflozin in rodents as well. And Mendelian randomization shows a causal association between SGLT2 inhibition and male age. So SGLT2i might be enough. (I take dapagliflozin)

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@DeStrider What side effects are you thinking about that are not good that canagliflozin but not empagliflozin?

@adssx Was it this mice study on on empagliflozin that you was thinking about?

ā€œEmpagliflozin extended the median survival of male mice by 5.9%.ā€
Source: Empagliflozin rescues lifespan and liver senescence in naturally aged mice - PubMed

Any reason why you take dapagliflozin and not canogliflozin or empagliflozin?

Yes itā€™s that study.

Canagliflozin has more side effects and less good data in humans (thatā€™s why itā€™s not approved for as many conditions as the others).

Empagliflozin and dapagliflozin seem to be very close. Dapagliflozin has a bit of SGLT1 inhibition as well. I was prescribed dapagliflozin for reactive hypoglycemia so I sticked to it. But I might change to empagliflozin if better data emerges.

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:+1: Do you have any post or some linke where I can read more on that canagliflozin has more side effects and less good data in humans?

You can read the whole thread here :sweat_smile: Or filter on my messages.

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Thanks for that excellent analysis, @CronosTempi

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I just started Brenzavvy (bexagliflozin ). Hereā€™s While Brenzavvy itself has not been extensively studied for longevity benefits, it shares the mechanism of action of other SGLT2 inhibitors that have demonstrated potential in slowing aging and preventing age-related diseases. SGLT2 inhibitors have been associated with reduced risks for common conditions of aging, including heart failure, chronic kidney disease, atrial fibrillation, cancer, gout, neurodegenerative disease, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

A biohacker might consider taking Brenzavvy (bexagliflozin) for its potential longevity and anti-aging benefits, despite it being primarily designed for type 2 diabetes treatment. Hereā€™s why:

  1. Potential lifespan extension: SGLT2 inhibitors, the class of drugs Brenzavvy belongs to, have shown promise in extending lifespan in animal studies. For example, canagliflozin increased median survival of male mice by 14%[
    (Repurposing SGLT-2 Inhibitors to Target Aging: Available Evidence and Molecular Mechanisms - PMC).
  2. Healthspan improvement: SGLT2 inhibitors have demonstrated the ability to improve healthspan by reducing the incidence or severity of age-related conditions such as cardiomyopathy, kidney disease, and liver issues
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  3. Cellular senescence reduction: These drugs have shown potential in eliminating senescent cells, which contribute to aging. Canagliflozin, another SGLT2 inhibitor, reduced senescence load in visceral adipose tissue and improved metabolic dysfunction in mice
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  4. Metabolic benefits: Brenzavvy has been shown to improve glycemic control, reduce body weight, and lower systolic blood pressure, which could contribute to overall health and longevity
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  5. Anti-inflammatory effects: SGLT2 inhibitors have demonstrated the ability to reduce low-grade inflammation, a key driver of aging often referred to as ā€œinflammagingā€
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  6. Potential neuroprotective effects: Some studies suggest SGLT2 inhibitors may have benefits for the central nervous system, which could be of interest to biohackers looking to optimize cognitive function
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(Not medical advice)

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My Rapa doc here in Colorado just wrote me an Rx of this SGLT2 inhibitor.(Jan 20 2025) and I got it from Mark Cubanā€™s CostPlus drugs - $145 for 90 day supply. I got 90 1mg Sirolimus there too for $90 until CVS started selling it for $75 (using coupons). At age 73, Iā€™ve been getting diminishing returns from rapamycin, and hope that adding this gives me a boost. Thanks for the reference and synopsis - much appreciated.

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Would you mind sharing which sglt2 you purchased from Costplusdrugs? I see dapagliflozin and seems a lot higher than $145 for a 3 month supply.

I talked to my pharmacist regarding the Empagliflozin 25mg.

She said we cant split the tablet since it has film.

Can you confirm this please?

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I used to split my Jardiance in half before I raised the dose to a full tablet, and it definitely still worked (confirmed with multiple urine tests).

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Did you need any splitting tool, or you could just do it with lets say ā€¦ knife?