jakexb
#103
Yes but what’s the guarantee, that you get your money back? That’s the least of concerns if something goes wrong. Take it from someone who ended up in the hospital for 3 days after some bad semorelin or bp157 (don’t know which of if both were bad)
I sourced mine from Skye peptides whose purity is relatively high, but possibly not the highest/greenest. The difference between 99.9% and 95% is still important b/c the impurities (even if most of the product is legit) can be a source of toxicity.
[lol, recall the impt moment that someone at vibecamp asked me if I cared about the purity of the substances I took. While he was referring referring to psychedelics, health-wise, impurities from peptides are way more important/concerning]…
I ordered some more recently from the #2 supplier.
it takes ~5 days for my (recently high) appetite to return higher, ugh. Loading up on the shirataki rice again
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When you purchase from grey market sources, expecting a “money back guarantee”, may not be a reasonable expectation for peptides. But I could be wrong 
Since I personally use everything I sell (I’ve personally injected over 20 different peptides in the past 18 months) plus, I would not put my family and friends in jeopardy, things seem to be going well for all concerned. I’ve only had one person with a “bad” reaction and it turned out it wasn’t the peptides, it was DHEA causing the problem. They were doing the modified TRIIM protocol and it took a couple months to sort that out.
Having said that, I don’t use all those on a regular basis and I’m not always interested in the “benefits” of some of them but I am always curious about how they perform. While there can be different levels of performance based on the individual, I like to push all my “testing” through the min dose to the max dose so I have a personal reference.
With DSIP for example the min is 100mcg, the max is 500mcg. I didn’t start with the min I started at 200mcg and over about 8 nights went up to 500mcg. I found that for myself and my wife 300mcg was the sweet spot. BUT I now have some idea of what 500mcg will do for me.
I prefer to speak from personal experience as you have with your “bad sermorelin” experience.
Personally I wouldn’t bother with sermorelin, I find the Ipamorelin + CJC 1295 noDAC combo provides better results.
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For most kit vendors there is a guarantee, provided you tested and the test was able to show the product didn’t meet the standards you were promised. You have to test for mass and purity, and it’s the absolute minimum you should do when buying from the market.
The non-obvious corollary that I keep repeating is : buying from vendors that only sell single vials is generally a bad idea and potentially more dangerous. You have to test the product you actually receive, not the product that the vendor says they are selling you. Do not trust COAs from vendors.
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LukeMV
#107
It’s also good that whenever we get a “bust” like this revealing scammers, a lot of peptide companies are put on notice and make sure to clean up their acts. Once word spreads that you sent someone fake or underdosed stuff, their business suffers.
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2025-07-03 update: most of the side effects are now away from my injection 8 days ago (i dont feel like I want to be in bed most of the time like I did a few days after injection) and I still have some appetite suppression (can still only eat like 1 box of almonds a day max). This feels ideal. I injected too much last time [4mg is a very high starting dose]
2025-07-07 update: appetite now seems to increase to normal again and I’m eating more almonds than I should be eating, tomorrow seems like a fine day for reinjection…
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LukeMV
#109
I think I would drop down to 1mg if 4mg caused those side effects.
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