#819

OK, thanks for clarifying. It’s a peptide I’ve been reading more about, and was surprised when I ran into storage issues last night. Just confirms to me that this particular source of info is wrong.

My dosage of kisspetin-10 is more intermittent, I’ve been doing 3x a week, at 200mcg. I dose before a lifting. I don’t feel anything good or bad so far, but hopefully labs next week tell me if there’s an effect at all. I am also eyeing using hcg 2x a week to stimulate Leydig cells. This way I stimulate production at both the pituary and testes.

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#820

I’ve completely given up on GHK-Cu for now, since I’ve been unable to get rid of the sting. I’ve gone ahead and gotten the individual components to make my own blend that has bpc157 / tb500 / kpv.

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#821

Okay, but why? Is it something in the peptide itself, or in the manufacturing process? Your fellow Canadian, the very knowledgeable J. F. Tremblay has said that, on the whole, peptides are stable. Is TA-1 any different?

#822

Have you tried injecting in the glutes? I do it almost daily without pain.

#823

I tried that, and a bunch of other things. Just tired of fussing with it :). I also bought it premixed, which was a mistake. I’ve sold it back, and now I can experiment with the individual ingredients as I wish.

#824

STORAGE OF THYMOSIN ALPHA 1

Thymosin alpha 1 should be stored at -20 degrees Celsius. Lyophilized thymosin alpha 1 may remain stable for up to three weeks at room temperature; however, for long term storage, it should be kept below -180 degrees Celsius and stored in the desiccated form. When ready to use, it may be reconstituted and subsequently stored at 40 degrees Celsius for a period of two to seven days. If the intention is to store thymosin alpha 1 for a longer period of time, then it is advised to store it in combination with a carrier protein such as 0.1% human serum albumin or bovine serum albumin. It is recommended to avoid repeated freezing and thawing[19].

HOW SUPPLIED

ZADAXIN (thymalfasin) is supplied in single use vials containing 1.6 mg of lyophilized thymosin alpha 1 per vial. Each carton contains two vials of ZADAXIN (thymalfasin) . Each carton also contains two ampoules of diluent for ZADAXIN (thymalfasin) , each containing 1.0 ml of Sterile Water for Injection, which are to be used for reconstituting the ZADAXIN (thymalfasin) .

Store ZADAXIN (thymalfasin) between 2° and 8°C (36° to 46° F). Reconstituted ZADAXIN (thymalfasin) should be used immediately.

#825

Generalities in science are useless and misleading.

#826

Also in science the thinking often evolves. This paper says that TA-1 is “heat stable.”

#827

Is this an issue of Zadaxin (brand) vs generic TA1?

#828

Good question. I don’t know.

#829

In addition to heat (although the 7,000 peptides we make internally do OK at body temp long enough to do their job) and depending on the amino acids in a particular peptide, Peptides can be degraded by;

  1. time
  2. oxygen
  3. enzymes
  4. acid
  5. alkaline
  6. other peptides
  7. water

Ta-1 powder, is stable until it’s reconstituted in water. Being shelf stable for up to 3 weeks at room temp before being reconstituted or when it’s refrigerated as a powder or when stored at -21c is not the same as when it reconstituted.

It’s when its reconstituted that it starts to degrade.

That paper you provided is about making a new form of Ta-1(3) that is more effective. Pretty interesting paper.

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#830

Easy for you to determine.

Look at the CAS #, if they are the same, then it’s the exact same peptide…

But to get you on the way, here is the CAS # for Ta-1
CAS Number: 62304-98-7

Or read this
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/thymosin-alpha1

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#831

I haven’t seen this story posted yet, but it can have disastrous consequences for the research and reputation of peptides, especially since they haven’t disclosed what exactly these people took that made them sick.

It reminds me a lot of the flawed study on TRT many years ago that set its reputation backwards for far too long.

More than likely, there was some sort of contamination or completely new treatment that made these people sick. No one is going to the hospital from BPC157 or TB500 injections.

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#832

I doubt it. It’s a ripple, not a wave.

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#833

Peptides could be literally anything. Semaglutide could get you hospitalized. Very lame that they won’t reveal what peptides were injected.

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#834

There are more than enough people using peps successfully to improve their health in so many areas, that I doubt it will make much difference but it will enable a few people to make some money doing spurious blogs, videos and pod casts :slight_smile:

I think peptides have reached the critical mass required for increased adoption by more “average” Joes and Janes.

I’ve only been in this business for 2 years now and the growth I see in the market is explosive.

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#835

The news from Las Vegas has been notable for its irony, but the facts of story, whatever they turn out to be, will point not to peptides but to one of the many forms of human folly.

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