Karel1
#246
Have a good day all.
Has anyone done business with synthagenlabs in Europe - https://synthagenlabs.com › en › homepage .
I find it difficult to find out where they are Italy or Portugal and more important to find out about the scientific basis and quality of their products that are supposed to be derivatives of known peptides like epitalon the terminal n-acetyl arginin derivative.
Ulf
#247
.Thymalin combines nicely with Epitalon.
“A separate group of patients was treated with Thymalin in combination with Epithalamin annually for 6 years and their mortality rate decreased 4.1 times as compared to the control”. 20 % mortality vs 82%. Small sample but p<0.01. Too fantastic to be true?
From Khavinson V, Morozov V.
Vol. 24 (3-4) 2003 Neuro endocrinology letters Clinical Trial 2003; 24(3-4): 233-240 PubMed PMID: 14523363
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curt504
#248
We buy from all of these price depending. BUT my wife and the coaches she’s subed to have a pref for the US made peptides which are more expensive. IE from: Canlab (google), core peptides
Our list of sources are:
peptide sciences
limitless
core peptides
canlab
I buy from this cheaper place;
polaris peptides
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curt504
#249
Youtube has tremendous vids / channels giving details on;
Thymosin A1 (knocked out a cold) so is apart of our get sick stack which includes the FLCCC stack; inver+Doxy+Azer
Terzeptide (a newer glp-1) but in micro doses weekly. I’m lean, 169# but am after the many MANY other benefits; brain, organ etc of adding a bit of glp-1 back. IMHO I would re-name taking glp-1 into; the general tactic: BHRT, including thyroid, testosterone, and now age dependant drop off of glp-1.
I’m taking 500mmg/wk. I don;t really feel the appitite suppression which I don’t want.
TB500+GHK-cu+BPC-157 combo; DIY or buy “glow” from polaris already in this mix; anti inflammatory, injury site repair.
In sideways: this PEMF device is fantastic injury repair efficacy; FlexPulse G2
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@curt504 is there a reason you don’t solely purchase from Polaris peptides? I have purchased from canlab in the past and been very happy but lately it has been much more difficult to easily buy peptides from them (and the website has a different domain name now).
The prices for peptides from different sites is all over the map. I don’t mind paying for a reputable company but that can be difficult to determine.
I’m looking to try the retatrutude if you had between Polaris or peptidessciences would you have a preference?
curt504
#251
My wife to her credit and my respect can press the buy button on very expensive health devices and nutricals. I have problem that may be detrimental of paying more for something that I can buy cheaper YET seems quality. My wife’s coaching program suggested a higher quality list of places. I found Polaris via googling. LOL
Yet Polari’s vials have batch numbers, serial numbers and the website has COAs you can down load. Of course are they real? I’ve looked at all her vials some don’t have batch numbers.
This is wild west. Money less an object, buy from the US made sources.
Yes I’ve noticed inventory comes and goes pretty fast. Terzepitide is very hot, selling out, FDA/Elli lilly had a Cease and Desist that lasted a week. Then Terzip was back on the web sites… We bought $1k’s in one weekend. DOH!! Ouch.
This area is ramping up extremely fast and I suspect is past the tipping point of some industry wide Cease and Desist. The experts claim these are natural compounds … This is all a TBD env!!
FWIW the same is happening with healthy food. Its selling out, longer lines at the real farmers markets. Meat at our best tasting grass finished ranches are selling out… Now peptides are selling out…
We prefer the 0.5ml half sized insulin syringes. FWIW Easier to measure these tinny doses.
Also this site is VERY helpful; https://primepeptides.co/pages/peptide-calculator
Its a fire hose to learn even after you have the viles in hand!! How to dilute and get the right dose into the body, frequency blabla.
Best of luck, curt
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Thanks for the perspective and info.
I still remember Ben Greenfield having a huge tumor in his head, and while we’ll never know for certain, it did make me wonder whether if his constant peptide use was a factor. I’m sure these peptides have efficacy, but like most things, continual use is probably not good.
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Davin8r
#254
I’d especially be careful with any/all of the growth hormone secretagogues and mimetics when it comes to cancer. Even if they don’t cause the initial tumor, they can cause it to grow much faster. Also, in theory they could allow an early tumor to grow fast enough to “escape” immune system surveillance when it otherwise may have been destroyed by natural killer cells at a very early stage.
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I think that’s good advice anything that promotes angiogenesis probably isn’t good to take continually.
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Yes, we will never know, but based on the evidence it is highly unlikely.
Taking anti-cancer supplements etc, does not mean you will not get cancer.
Or, that they cause you to get cancer, etc.
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Ulf
#257
May I ask, are you doing the Khavinson protocol from the study showing 4.1x less mortality from Epitahlon+Thymalin? .Ie. 10 mg of each on ten consecutive days once a year. The protocols are all over the place, with the same or half the dose every six months being a common recommended one.
At Rupharma I can only get Thymogen, not Thymalin, I understand that to be the same only needing one hundredth of the dose.
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Yes, that is the annual protocol. I’m due my next run in September. 10mg daily of each.
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Karel1
#259
@Ulf and @Walter_Brown can you please be very specific. Epitalamin and Thymalamin are the crude extract. The pure substances Epitalon and Thymogen are up to 100 times stronger.
So please state the exact product name and dose to USE.
Thanks!
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Ulf
#260
You are right, my wording was not correct. The 4.1x less mortality protocol is 10 mg each of thymic peptide Thylamin and pineal peptide Epithalamin intramuscularly and simultaneously (presumably one right after the other) for 10 consecutive days annually for six years.
One can find advice on doing this every six months instead.
Indeed, Epitalon and Thymogen are apparently 100 times stronger. The vials of the supplier who is now only stocking Thymogen is exactly one hundredth of the dosage of Thylamin.
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Ulf
#261
Confusingly, Epithalamin is often called Epitalon even in formal circumstances. If it´s doses in the milligrams it is Epithalamin…
Ulf
#262
Can anybody recommend a trusted supplier of MOTS-C and GHK-Cu with shipping from the EU? My supplier does not stock those. And of Epithalamin, usually wrongly called Epitalon, it´s the injectable kind I want,with vials preferably of 10 mg each. My supplier will only have this later and I would like to start it asap together with my Thymalin.
Tomnook
#263
I’ve used uk-peptides for a while (recommended by Walter Brown on this forum). Excellent service, 3rd party testing and superfast delivery. They ship UK and overseas and appear to stock all the ones you mention.
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Ulf
#264
Thanks, that seems to be a good supplier. However I will wait to see if I get a tip on an EU supplier since local customs are hypervigilant on non-EU packages and confiscate when drugs are deemed to require a prescription.
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Tomnook
#265
Have a look at biolabshop.eu - based in Poland. I’ve ordered several from them with no complaints and they have lab analyses and chromatograms. Also have UK distribution and very fast turnaround. If you sign up to the newsletter there’s a discount offered. They have the ones you’re looking for although their Epitalon appears to be called Epithalon. Very good reviews on Reddit if you look.
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