#21

I’m throwing all my supplements in the trash and starting ear drops tomorrow.

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#22

Is it bc supplements caused your ear infection?:grinning:

#23

you have to earn that indication though thru… swimming in lots of dirty public pools !

#24

@LaraPo I’m pretty sure he’s being sarcastic. :wink:

#25

No doubt he was, and so was I :kissing_heart:

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#26

The capsules were getting stuck in my ear.

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#27

I’m taking some 30+ supplements. It’s too many and I feel tired of them. Need a serious plan to reduce.

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#28

Same here. I need to rank order them all, then every day take only the ones I think are critical and rotate the others.

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#29

I think I got my supplements down to 15.

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#30

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Can you share the list? why or why not? Thanks

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#31

Fish oil with vitamin D (Nordic naturals)
Magnesium (Magtein)
Multivitamin (PureEncapsulation Longevity)
Ashwaganda
Sulforaphane (Avmacol)
Rapamycin
Atorvastatin
Creatine
Taurine
Hydrolyzed Collagen
Novos Core (stops if formula not updated)

Trials:
Fatty 15
Akkermansia (Pendulum)
Polyphenol (Pendulum)

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#32

There is a popular school of thought that aromatase inhibitors are more dangerous long term than increased estradiol from testosterone conversion, and that the lab range for estradiol is only valid if someone isn’t on TRT. Some say it doesn’t even need to be tested as long as testosterone is in the upper range, because estrogen conversion is a positive thing from physiological testosterone dosages. Any thoughts?

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#33

I stopped Novos Core for that exact reason. They don’t ever update the formula and still defend ingredients like fisetin and pterostilbene, while demonizing NAC and never correcting their position after we have new data over the last 3 1/2 years since they released the product. They also just released a really silly organ support chew product, so I’m out on Novos.

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#34

@LukeMV lol, those are the exact two ingredients I was looking at.

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#35

I will occasionally use anastrozole, which is certainly very effective if estradiol goes substantially north of where we would like. I think it is a fair statement that the testosterone/estradiol ratio is probably more relevant than absolute numbers. However, I’d not think it wise to not monitor. If I’m goaling for a normal of a free testosterone of ~125-150 pg/mL - which is mid normal, and in response I’m getting an estradiol of 70 - which is double the upper limit I’d like, that is a different situation to when we accidentally overshoot supplementation and the we have a free of 300 pg/mL and have the estradiol at 70. I’m probably more happy just letting that drop as I’d rapidly adjust the testosterone dosing.
There are some men, with normal goaling of testosterone that aromatize too much to estradiol, and I’d rather give a tiny dose of anastrazole twice a week than let that run. However, there is a lot of debate in this space, and variable literature that one could use to support either position.

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#36

Good balanced approach

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