I’ve been a fan of this page for a while now and have read through a LOT of the posts/topics. Ordered my rapamycin 1 week ago from Oddway international and was delivered today. My wife and I just took our first dose of 1mg. We are planning to slowly increase over time (we are both in our 30’s) and take it once a week. Thank you all for the valuable info and insight!

One thing I have not found any info on here about is a condition I have called Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EOE for short). Does anyone else have this and if so, has rapamycin been helpful in any way? If not, I guess I’ll let you all know if it helps me over the course of time.

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Hi, and welcome to the site. Glad to hear you’re finding the site interesting.

I’ve never heard of this condition before, but looking at the wikipedia entry it says its an inflammatory condition. Rapamycin has some pretty strong anti-inflammatory effects, so I would not be surprised if it helps. Whatever the case (results good or not good) please report back as you test out your rapamycin.

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Please post here if Rapamycin improves your condition!

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So I wasn’t planning on putting an update on here this soon, but the results from rapa have been so incredible that I had to give a one month update! I actually believe my experience has been similar to @Agetron in what he describes as dysphagia here

I have had this condition since high school, but it has progressively gotten worse; to the point that I saw a GI doctor 2 years ago. I had an endoscopy done and he found that I had an overabundance of Eosinophils. My symptoms would commonly include trouble swallowing, pressure in my chest, and the innability to swallow my saliva…which meant i’d have to spit up phlem. This could have been from food struggling to go down and thus my esophagus would push up whatever couldn’t get by (I tried drinking water a couple of times to see if it would help push the food through, but it actually made it worse). The doctor didn’t really have any great solutions. He said I could try omeprazole, but I didn’t like the idea of being on that long term…so I’ve essentially lived with it, trying to chew slowly, drink water between bites, etc. This hasn’t really impacted it a lot though. It would be worse at times and better at times, but I’ve never really gone more than a couple weeks without at least getting it once.

When I started taking rapa, I recognized that several weeks had gone by without any episodes. I chalked it up to being a good period…but that I would probably have another episode soon. Then came the biggest test yet. My father’s church has a men’s elk supper every year (last Tuesday) and I have gotten it bad the last 2 years (Meat is a trigger, but for some reason elk steak really brought it on). I was a bit nervous, but ate the entire elk steak without having a reaction. I didn’t have to drink water between bites or do any of the tricks i’ve used in the past.

To say I’m excited is an understatement. Being able to eat food without worrying if I’m going to have to be in the restroom for an hour or two spitting up my saliva is a HUGE relief.

I’ll keep you all updated as time goes on, but I’m amazed at the relief of only being on it for a month.

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Good for you Jeremy… I am not sure our rapamycin.news community can really understand the fear of choking to death on food - but you have to eat. And flushing with water - or milk only created a worse situation where the blockage remained and now breathing was cut off.

Happy to say after rapamycin for 3.5 years – its been over 3 years since the last time I had that problem. I can eat whatever (particular big chunks of meat), whenever and no liquid required. I will eat the driest Jimmy John’s sub sandwhich and not even look to see if there is anything to drink. no issues… my esophagus is impervious to stuck food.

Give us an update in another month - but like me - I think you are fixed. Whatever neurological cells were inflammed or not functioning correctly have been repaired. Crazy good!

BTW - Matt Kaeberlein and I exchanged emails early on and he was fascinated by my choking - swallowing of food issues being resolved after dosing with rapamycin. You and I are now N=2. LOL.

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Hey Jeremy… its been 7 months… update?

I’m sure many here would like to hear… how it has been working for you. Good results?

@Agetron thanks for checking in! I’ve been wanting to get on and give an update on how my symptoms have been.

I have still been symptom free. No feeling of food getting stuck and no other issues (that have been most of my adult life). The other good news is that my gastroenterologist did another endoscopy and the results are incredible! Here are the notes of my biopsy from before and after starting rapamycin by my doctor.

Before rapamycin:
Benign squamous mucosa with increased intraepithelial eosinophils (focally up to 100 per high- power field) and focal eosinophil microabscess.

After rapamycin:
-Eosinophils count: 5 eosinophils/high-power field. -No intestinal metaplasia.

I plan on getting another follow up in the future, but to go from 100 eosinophils per hpf down to 5 or less is nothing short of amazing (for someone who has done nothing else medication wise).

What I’m really torn about is telling my gastro doc about the rapa. I haven’t had the in person follow up yet, but I suspect he will ask what I’ve been doing. I know others have shared on these forums that doctors typically aren’t receptive to hearing about their patients taking this (I do not have a prescription FYI).

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Sweet… great news… you’re too young to have an illness which makes social eating so unpleasant.

The neurological cell repair is vital to all kinds of physiologically process. I can you see how rapamycin can actually help or repair many issues nerve related health problems like Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Balance disorder, Meige syndrome - Jutting jaw.

Like you Jeremy, after 6 months of rapamycin my dysphagia was gone for good.

Looking forward to future announcements of trouble-free swallowing.

To share your rapamycin off label use or not to share.That’s a tough one. On one hand it might lead him to help others like you so they don’t have to suffer. On the other, he might stop seeing you… but… your change is so great. I don’t know how he couldn’t see this as anything but a life preserver to those suffering similar illnesses.

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I would 100% tell him! He’s not going to stop seeing you as a patient for something that you are doing on your own and is clearly working. The only thing he probably wouldn’t do is prescribe you off-label rapamycin, but you don’t need him for that anyway.

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Understandable, wanting to share the good news with your doc, so s/he may help others. Totally get it. Also, probably no danger the doc will stop seeing you as your results are so outstanding. And yet, one would be remiss not to sound one note of caution: insurance. If it goes into your medical record that you are taking a physician unapproved medication on your own, not approved for that indication, it may have negative consequences, such as having other claims/procedures/tests denied, because they’ll say it was due to your taking an unapproved drug, and you are therefore technically no longer under the care of your in-network physician. Of course there are many factors that go into it, the kind of insurance you have, who oversees your insurance claims etc., but it is something to keep in mind.

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That’s actually a good point. There’s another thread in the forum about how switching Medicare providers (after signing up originally) can be a problem if rapamycin/sirolimus use is in your medical history (can be automatic refusal to be signed up for the new plan since their system assumes you’re an organ transplant patient, etc).

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In my own case, I developed EoE later in life, but the symptoms started occurring long before I started taking rapa. Rapa thus did not prevent or mitigate the symptoms of EoE as far as I could tell. Those symptoms were exactly as Jeremy described - trouble swallowing, inability to swallow saliva, the feeling that food hadn’t gone “all the way down” and was stuck halfway down my throat, and the occasional need to puke up the food if it didn’t go down.

Rather than rapa curing it, what I discovered by trial and error was that Greek yogurt was causing it. Once I stopped eating Greek yogurt, I stopped having EoE symptoms. What was weird about it was that for decades yogurt did not cause this problem, and then all of a sudden in my 50s it popped up. Also weird - no other form of dairy causes the symptoms - not milk, cream, ice cream, or cheese. It’s just the yogurt, which is too bad because I enjoyed the yogurt.

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All excellent points. The insurance thing does scare me away a bit. When I make the final verdict on what to do and have the appointment I will update on here.

@Dexter_Scott thats interesting. I know the two main culprits they believe are the cause of EOE are food allergies or acid reflux. Interesting that yours was tied to one specific food and not all dairy products in general. My cousins son has EOE as well and he had to cut out dairy because it can be a trigger for a lot of people.

I personally have tried different diets, cutting out certain foods, etc but didn’t have any luck in it helping get rid of my EOE. Based on when it has been the worst, I think mine is caused by seasonal allergies as well…which could explain why changing what I eat didn’t help much.

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@CronosTempi @Davin8r Do medical doctors have to put drugs they don’t prescribe on your medical record? It seems odd that they could put it on there solely based on my word that I’m taking it without a prescription. But I don’t doubt it.

It would be great to have an honest conversation about the benefits I’m seeing from taking rapa, but not at the expense of future insurance coverage issues.

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Jeremy, in my personal experience, yes, doctors do place these things in your record based on your word alone. I’m sure you’ve seen it yourself: when you sign in, often they have a questionnaire asking you to list all the supplements and medications you are taking, so right there if you reveal something it goes on your record. In conversation with my PCP, I would casually mention some health condition or event in the past, and then be surprised to see it pop up in my records (UCLA uses the MyChart portal where I can access my medical records, physician notes etc.).

Perhaps you can ask your doc if you can discuss something off the record, and then have him not record that in your file, but that’s something you must ask about first, don’t just blurt out “I’m taking X, can you please keep this off the record”, but “can I tell you something, and you won’t record this in my file?”. Don’t be shocked if he refuses, and for a very good reasons too - in evaluating your health, treatment plan, test results etc., they must know all the meds you are taking to evaluate properly, diagnose, triage, make sense of results, symptoms, interactions etc. Rapa is a very powerful drug. What is the doc supposed to do - s/he sees tons of patients. Unless the drug is in your records, do you expect them to remember “oh yeah, Jeremy is taking rapamycin, not in his medical record”. Worse, if his diagnosis or treatment plan takes into account a drug not in your records, it will look mighty strange to an outside observer - a malpractice suit, or at least a reprimand for not following standard of care guidelines. He can’t turn around and say “gee, it was appropriate care, because the patient was taking this secret off label drug which I failed to record” - that’s how you lose your license. You are putting your doc in a no win situation. The moment you tell him, he’s in a terrible bind. Asking him not to record this is asking too much on many levels.

My personal solution - you do you, I’m just reporting my approach - is not to burden my doc with such unwinnable binds. I explained why in a thread dedicated to this exact topic “do you tell your doctor you are taking rapamycin”.

Of course a lot depends on your doc, is s/he ok with life extension, prevention and 3.0 medicine or are they by the rulebook cogs. Are they knowledgeable about rapa or is it something they know nothing about, so their contribution to your health will be nil. Is insurance, medicare, concierge service relevant to your situation and in what way.

Not a simple decision. YMMV.

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He would definitely add rapamycin to your chart/drug list if you told him about, even if you asked him about it “off the record”. This is to protect both you and himself (liability) due to potential drug interactions with meds you may currently be taking or meds that may be added to your regimen in the future, in addition to current or future medical issues that may be related to rapamycin.

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This is a fair point. I had something go on my list of meds that I could have and should have kept off of it with ordering off shore. When I went to change insurance there was no talking them down from me being a pretty unwell person that they’d not insure. I almost certainly cannot get a new life insurance policy also.
Being secretive is an unfortunate part of being a longevity pursuing individual.
If an internist looked at my list of meds, they’d assume I was one really sick individual - but instead, it’s quite the opposite.

In general, if something is communicated of significance, it makes it in the record. Now if someone specifically asked me if I can confidentially discuss something and have it not go in the record in any way and they said yes to that - then I’d feel free to disclose it. You can look in the record afterwards to confirm, but if they verbally commit to that, in general I’d expect them to abide by what they said. There are always exceptions for mental health stuff - but for this, probably should be safe.

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