#1

Are there any known ways to counteract the health detriments of prolonged major depression?
Indeed, antidepressants, but studies show they can affect REM-sleep - and that is exactly what I seemed to experience.
Thanks

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#3

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and insightful response, Mike. Appreciate it tremendously! I should perhaps have mentioned that there is a clear cause for this depression of the past years (dating from a period years before I started taking Rx meds). I did not suffer from depression prior to that.
As Iā€™ve not been able to ā€˜tackleā€™ the problems that caused the depression, Iā€™m worried about the health-effects of such longterm, severe depression. Certainly seeing the studies over the past years indicating detrimental health effects. Iā€™m going to take a closer look at the things you suggested in your post and read the articles you posted in the upcoming days. As Iā€™m sure there are suggestions in your post that I could put to use - thanks so much!

The article you posted about CES is very interesting also. It reminds me of an article a friend sent me a while ago: Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective in controlled study | News Center | Stanford Medicine
Definitely interesting, and I have considered seeing if I could try to find a doctor in my country that may be willing to try a similar protocol. But apparently patients were treated for half a day, once per month, so I think it would be very difficult to set that in motion here until it is a more accepted treatment. Not to mention Iā€™m not sure if I may be a candidate, given the fact there is a clear cause for the depression.

#6

I think Dr. Axe did a pretty good job on this one too. Two of the 13 ways to beat depression involve getting more sunlight. I think the UVB from a Sperti lamp does the job for me. I thought it years ago after I started using it and would have to quit for a long time to prove it and have never wanted to know that bad. Theyā€™re $500, which kills me, but it should work forever at 5 minutes/day.

Exercise is obvious and works but also hard sometimes. When I do it too much I have injuries.

Iā€™m dying to know what prescription drug causes long term depression. If you donā€™t want to tell everybody, send me a message.

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#7

Really? SSRIā€™s are great drugs helping millions of people.

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#8

mike666, which CES would you recommend of the ones youā€™ve tried?

#10

Plenty of other explanations for violence. Maybe the underlying disease for which SSRIā€™s were prescribed? Maybe withdrawal symptoms?
Your alternative suggestion included St Johnā€™s wort which doesnā€™t do much but is a weak SSRI.

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#11

Ah Iā€™m sorry, my post must not have been clear. It was not a prescription drug that caused the depression. It was an invasive event that brought up longterm depression - long before I started these Rx meds. So with that in mind I doubt the Rx meds that I started taking only last year (Rapa + Empagliflozin) would have anything to do with it.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on the exercise + sunlight recommendation. Great advice, and it helped previously to combat this severe depression. In fact, Iā€™ve started to push myself again to do an hour of outdoors exercise every day, also in darkness and rain. I tried using my NIR/red light panel, but without much effects on mood it seems. I may consider buying a Sperti lamp (I had heard of them), but Iā€™m also looking into the option of not waiting longer and leaving a.s.a.p. for a place with more sun for a while.

#12

Thanks so much, Mike. Iā€™m also going to look into the CES units. This is an area I know very little about. The magnetic stimulation in the study I cited, I believe were such high doses that youā€™d not really be able to do it at home - makes me wonder a bit about safety also admittedly.

#13

Nope, you were clear. I re-read and see I got it wrong, sorry.

#14

I typically avoid referral links, because I donā€™t want to be part of commercial marketing, but if youā€™re thinking of getting a Sperti Vitamin D Sun Lamp anyway (I have one, and itā€™s a good brand), this link gives you a 10% discount (and yes kicks something back to me, too, but thatā€™s not why Iā€™m posting):

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