KFISH
#705
Brian’s regime of low calorie, Mediterranean - blue zone diet has been debunked. His new company will start selling his meals and supplements ($$$ 2024)
Don’t be fooled by his rejuvenation of facial features which are done by sculpture. If you’ve ever had it done, it makes you look 10 years younger I know! His positive attitude keeps him young but no real scientific evidence on his diet.
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KFISH
#706
Anyone can look 10 years younger this is what Brian added to his skin regiment it’s called Sculptra!
Facial fillers in men can be very effective in reversing early gravitational aging in the face and in achieving a natural result with little to no downtime. It is critical to understand the male facial anatomy to achieve a result that is balanced and does not feminize the male face.
Google it for any additional info
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“Anti-nutrients”
“Observational trials”
“U curves”
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Ermmm, you said Bryan’s diet has been “debunked” and provided the “proof” from Huberman. And yet in your quote Huberman says that his sleep, exercise and diet are the core to longevity!
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KFISH
#710
I agree with the three legged stool exercise, diet and sleep via Attias book- he says in humans there are no scientific evidence (only small studies that lower caloric restriction extends life in humans)= (yet). I am definitely all in on all Brian’s efforts! I am hoping he succeeds!
However, I question to what extent is 5 plus years worth or is relevant in an aging body, quality of life and mind after the age of 90?
Beware of influences especially if there are using cosmetic fillers to enhance there youth- it’s smoke and mirrors take a look at Hollywood.
I use them and I definitely could convince ppl I am 10 years younger.
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Neo
#711
What is this statement based on?
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Neo
#712
Are you aware / what are your thoughts on the potential ranges of probability that longevity escape velocity could kick in at some point the next 45-55 years?
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KFISH
#713
You need to do your own research… There are thousands of studies. This is an opinion piece. I thought was interesting. Good luck on your journey!
https://www.salon.com/2023/10/01/blue-zones-have-captivated-health-and-longevity-experts-but-are-they-real-or-statistical-grift/
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medaura
#714
I think maybe your statement goes a bit too far but I’m definitely with you about his rejuvenated face. Considering that he uses sculptra and fat grafts and weekly laser treatments his skin hasn’t even improved as much as it should have. I like seeing what he’s doing and the results he publishes but time to be extra careful when he starts selling supplements or meals.
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Neo
#715
I try to do a lot of my research. But when in don’t have solid evidence I don’t make black and white claims
So when you say something “low calorie, Mediterranean has been debunked” it’s on you to be able to share the evince for such a strong statement
Based on my reading of the literature it’s difficult to say anything with confidence about diets
Still there is a probably at least as much support for the Mediterranean diet as there is for any other diet
And the mechanistic data for low calorie diets impacting longevity in disease pathways in positive ways seems much stronger than in the other direction
So I was surprised to see someone not just say that they don’t see there being evidence for those things, but something massively stronger in that they have been “debunked”
Would just appreciate it if we kept with this forums general practice of distinguishing among what is fact, what is a based on data, what is a theory, what is a hypothesis, what is a feeling and what is an opinion.
And balance strength of statements to match the degree of confidence one reasonably can have in different things
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AnUser
#716
Yeah here are some basics in philosophy that’s worthwhile to read.
If someone makes a black and white statement, with absolute certainty, and if they don’t show their reasoning and proof for the statement, then it’s easy to assume they don’t know what they’re talking about as they based their statement on basically nothing.
It’s not as if it’s important for debate. It’s important because it helps us build an accurate worldview for our selves.
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I think that since the lifespan of Hong Kong and Japan are the two highest in the world, we should take a look at that. I believe the large amounts of seafood consumed (fish and others) would lead us to believe that higher doses of taurine are life-extending as seafood contains a high amount of taurine.
Also, the people are quite short (relatively) and thin. Of course there are other factors as well like fewer accidental deaths. I do think that the blue zones do lead us to some choices that improve longevity.
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Curious
#719
I find the long lifespans in Hong Kong and Singapore especially interesting. More people live, compared to Spain. Italy, France in Crowded metropolitan areas with intense urban lifestyle.
Far from our evolutionary environment. In this perspective, urbanization seems not to be detrimental?
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I live in Hong Kong, so I have been adapting to the lifestyle here. Other things I’ve noted is that the locals don’t eat salad, because they like cooked vegetables. I have not been able to eat cooked lettuce as it is slimy, but my wife likes it.
They also steam a lot of their food. For instance we usually eat a steamed fish at dinner that had been swimming in a tank that afternoon. Also a majority of dim sum, the local cuisine, is steamed. Also, free public healthcare helps a lot.
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Curious
#721
Diet is important but a complex factor to use when comparing populations. Could a healthy lifestyle, on an aggregate social level, be downstream of the material wealth and the educational level of the population?
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Hong Kong has the highest GINI coefficient in the world. This means that the disparity between the richest and the poorest is the greatest. We have some of the richest people and we have people who are treated like animals (Google Cage Homes Hong Kong).
Fortunately there is public healthcare for all. Even the poorest folks can get the operations they need for cancer or their heart plus the best therapies afterwards. One of my uncle-in-laws is having a surgery tomorrow at a public hospital to remove a lung tumor that would cost 40,000 USD at a private hospital.
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AnUser
#723
Look at what they ate in the past, not what they eat now.
It is the same error people looking at the Med today.
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The most common cause of shortened lifespan is gluttony.
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