I have read the Pendulum’s research. Does anyone have a experience supplementing with Akkermansia over a period of time? What have you learned and what are the effects other than on BG?
Alpha
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I’ve seen nothing showing that one can supplement directly with Akkermansia. Rather one has to supply the gut with the right nutrition/environment to promote the growth and sustainability of Akkermansia.
See discussions at: Immunity Code by Joel Greene and Akkermansia muciniphila, can strip the sugar coating from IgA antibodies, potentially leading to immune friendly fire.
Can you post “Pendulum’s research”?
Having a way to directly “supplement” with Akkermansia could prove very interesting.
Also, what do you mean by “BG”?
I just found Pendulum’s webpage on Pendulum Akkermansia.
Interesting, but it leaves me with questions:
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Does their product have an enteric coating so that the “live Akkermansia” doesn’t get destroyed by stomach acid?
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Does the product have some other means of delivering the Akkermansia to the gut?
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How do they determine dosage?
OK, just saw that the webpage claims the product uses some kind of enteric capsule:
Akkermansia is encased in a plant-based, acid-resistant, delayed release capsule so that the strain gets through the stomach acid and to the gut microbiome where it can do its job.
Three months to really work seems like a lot.
Joel Greene’s microbiome protocols appear to resent a microbiome in weeks rather than months.
I remain interested but skeptical.
Has anyone used this stuff or any of their other products?
Neo
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You might both find this thread helpful
Would love to hear your thoughts once you have read it:
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Neo
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And you might both also like to read this
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I’ve been using the Pendulum Glucose Control product for two months. I’m not using it for glucose control as I’m fine with my A1c/fasting blood glucose level. I’m trying it so see if I can get any benefits from its potential to strengthen gut lining/reduce gut permeability and increase butyrate production. Glucose Control contains multiple strains of bacteria, not just Akkermansia, so any perceived benefits I get may not be from that strain specifically.
Since I’ve started it I’ve experienced increased gut motility and a scaly, raised pink patch of skin on my forehead has faded significantly. These are associations, I’m not sure if there is any causation involved.
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Jay
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I used the Pendulum Akkermansia product for one month and noticed no improvements in anything.
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FYI. I’ve switched to the PRO products since they are on Fullscript. Fullscript is going to run a big sale (pendulum and more brands) in mid May. Message me if you want access. Anyone who has already set up an account will get notice of the sale.
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My HBA1C went from 5.7 to 4.9 after using Pendulum Akkermansia and Polyphenols for a month as well as taking 500 mg Metformin daily. The benefits probably come from both actions, but it seems much larger than I would have gotten from Metformin alone. When I was prediabetic, I only took 1 g of Metformin weekly.
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Have you switched to that product that contains 500 million AKK per capsule? Why not switch to GLP-1
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I did switch to the GLP-1 product. My gut motility improved after about 2 weeks (back to how it felt with the Akkermansia only product before I stopped using the supplement due to cost). I haven’t checked HbA1c yet to see if I’m getting the same benefit as on just Akkermansia but I feel good.
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Beth
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Glad to see you mention their polyphenols. I’m taking their glucose control and taking one pill a day (just to keep costs reasonable). I chose that product after hearing Attia say good things about the company.
According to ZOE, I have a horrible gut, so this is my main interest for pro/pre-biotics
They just gifted me a bottle of their polyphenols and I had wondered if it’s worth purchasing in the future. Do you see value in that particular product and plan to continue?
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I only took the product for a month. I also added 500 mg of Metformin daily.
Due to a miscalculation when I used a glucose calculator instead of a fasting glucose one (which provide very different numbers), my HBA1C was not 4.9 as I thought. It’s actually 5.4. So I went from 5.7 to 5.4.
Unfortunately, now I think the reduction was mostly the Metformin. However, I did buy another month’s supply of Akkermansia, so we’ll see what happens at the next blood draw in August.
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tj_long
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Does anyone know where to get this delivered to Europe?
eli
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I ordered 2 bottles once from supplements megastore and my order never arrived , nor did I get reimbursed, despite my claim. I am thinking of trying the akkermansia pasteurised ones since at least I can order from EU firms … iherb would send it to Eu too but every time I checked it was not in stock so I gave up.
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jakexb
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I am trying akkermansia from codeage right now in hopes of increasing glp-1 but we’ll have to see. Nothing notable to report so far.
Ulf
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Could anyone report on results from longer-term supplementation with Akkermansia?
BG - blood glucose, aka BS (blood sugar).
I took Supersmart (60 caps), later CodeAge (90 caps).
Nada, Niente, Nic.
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Joseph Lavelle had positive results. Brought down his BG. But he used Pendulum.
DeStrider tried Pendulum too.
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Pendulum Akkermansia has 100 million CFU per capsule (around $1.42 per day on Amazon)
Just saw the Keptrohy brand on Amazon that lists 300 billion AFU (per 2 capsules) for $0.97 per day on Amazon Keptrohy Akkermansia. That sounds too good to be true : 3000 times the dosage of Akkermansia for a lower price than Pendulum ?
Keptrohy seems to be a company from China.
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