Why cacao powder? For the taste? Or health benefits?
Beth
#14
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Could be. The question is do you need the caffeine to function normally…if so then you are permanently using a crutch. If you only use it to feel better than normal, then “not leaving much on the table”…I agree. If you just like the taste, use decaf to see whether the caffeine is a crutch or an enhancer.
The problem with “enhancer” is that people develop a tolerance and need to keep upping the dose. So even in the case of “don’t need it but want it for enhancement”…don’t use it everyday.
Or just do what you want. But this is low hanging fruit. We take experimental drugs with mysterious side effects to get hard to measure benefits…but we won’t give up a morning buzz? Hmmm.
I am fighting my own addiction. If I have 1 cup I am fine. But when 1 cup feels so good, I have a hard time resisting cup #2. It’s actually easier to just not have any except for special occasions.
Maybe that’s just me.
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I don’t know, I think it’s mostly psychological for me. I do love the taste of coffee (hence why I drink it black) and always look forward to it in the morning. It really is the best part of the day for me. There have been some occasions when I don’t get to drink it for a couple hours after waking and I can’t say that I’ve felt “dull” or “off,” so I don’t really think I’m using it as a crutch. Maybe a little. Don’t know. I do think there’s not much to be gained in my case from reducing consumption, as I don’t really see that it’s negatively affecting me in any way. Maybe a third party would disagree. As hard as life is these days I’m fine with a little crutch. At least it’s not alcohol or drugs.
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I guess to put it a different way, in the context of my own personal experience with both quite high doses and no caffeine at all (and different points in between), your post (and forgive me for this, I don’t mean to criticize, just giving my honest reaction) seems like moralizing to me.
We “won’t give up our morning buzz?” Why should we? My experience is that the morning buzz is probably not detrimental for most people in most situations, and so it just seems like pointless nagging. That probably came across too harsh, I don’t mean to be a jerk. I’ve just done the whole low/no caffeine thing and don’t feel like it added anything of note to my life but I was constantly missing my morning coffee. All negatives with no positives to me. But everyone’s experience will vary and I speak only for myself.
As I said, to take away the crutch so you can solve the real issue which is getting enough sleep and recovery. If you don’t need to solve that problem then don’t. I need to solve it.
Jonas
#20
Dose that change your coffee taste? I love the taste of the coffee when it’s pure.
Yes - definitely changes it, but I still like it. Most coffee aficionados are probably not going to like my coffee.
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Jonas
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Nick1
#23
I do 6gm of Taurine, 5 gm of creatine, NAC 800 mg, L lysine, glycine, Spermidine, Amla powder with collagen peptide, 1 tsp of Cocoa extract and CaAKG…then make a shot of espresso using dark roast Illy or Lavazza before I hit the home gym with bright light exposure.
Before I do that I do check morning HRV using Morpheus which I love BTW.
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First two cups in a large mug. Medium roast Arabica Blend.
Add:
- 11 g of collagen powder
- 1 g of TMG
- 5 g of Glycine
- 5 g of Creatine
Next two cups in a large mug about 3 hours later:
- Magnesium Citrate
- 5 g of Taurine
- 500 mg of L-Carnosine
- 11 g of Chocolate Whey Powder
Don’t expect to taste much of the coffee in either, but you do get the caffeine.
Evening tea:
2 cups of water boiled with a decaf tea.
Add:
- 5 g of Glycine
- 8 g of Citrulline Malate
It ends up tasting like a fruit lemonade.
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DrT
#25
On doctor’s orders I now drink decaf coffee. (The caffeine can set off atrial fibrillation.)
I make up a very large mug of it. I use a non-sugar sweetener. I add cream, half teaspoon of citrulline, a quarter teaspoon of reduced glutathione and a teaspoon of taurine.
I like the taste! So much so, that, last week I made up a coffee but without the supplements. The taste was “bleeaauuggh!”
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mccoy
#26
I am one of those guys who like specialty coffee, a niche by itself, and coffee-making in the morning is a ritual, with something called a Hario-switch, temperature-controlled water, scale, hand-grinder and so on.
typically, specialty coffees are high-altitude, low-caffeine, high in chlorogenic acid and have many different tastes. I also like to buy them in artistic packages, to add some color to the morning routine.
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DrT
#27
Have you tried that “cat-turd” coffee? That’s meant to be fairly “niche” and special!
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JuanDaw
#28
They use civets
https://www.amazon.com/Natureland-Luwat-Coffee-Freshly-coffee/dp/B0916PGFSF/ref=asc_df_B0916PGFSF?mcid=244e17396b6435479bc494ec3c1b0a2a&hvocijid=16871678033368496445-B0916PGFSF-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16871678033368496445&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9197929&hvtargid=pla-2281435177618&psc=1
Natureland Wild Civet Arabica Coffee Whole Beans, Freshly Made Luxury Kopi Luwak Coffee Bean, Dark Roast Kopi Luwak Coffee Gifts, Produce in best regions of Vietnam, 4oz /113 grams, Civet Coffee, Luxury Cat Poop Coffee.
The civets digest the flesh of the coffee cherries but pass the beans inside, where stomach enzymes affect the beans. This adds to the coffee’s prized aroma and flavor.[6] About 0.5 kg (1 lb) can cost up to $600 in some parts of the world and about $100 a cup in others.[8]
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I see, understood. I’m a diva about my sleep, no problem there, lol.
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mccoy
#30
Kopi Luwak is pretty controversial.
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Beth
#31
On the note of all these answers… and this is probably the wrong group to ask this of because you all can ruin your coffee and still be happy drinking it, well, maybe with the exception of @DrT :)….
Has anyone shared a great recipe of some good but strong tasting sludge to add all these powders to mask the taste? I’m thinking along the lines of chocolate syrup or something? Putting stuff in my protein shakes has only taught me to hate protein shakes :).
I’ve recently gone all in on the million supplements a day as you all have… and loading my little pill packs is getting old, (got old on day 1 :), and I see that powders are a FRACTION of the cost, and I like the idea of no fillers…
I assume if there was this magical mixer, you all wouldn’t be ruining a perfectly great cup of coffee :).
@mccoy I’m all in on my espresso set up too… have not even heard of a hand grinder, but I do have the scale :).
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RapMet
#32
I can never take anything with my coffee (other than little milk, and little raw sugar) because it doesn’t taste like coffee. I do load my mid-day shake though with all kinds of things/powders and spices and it yet tastes delicious.
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