#121

I apologize if you addressed this in a different thread but in your experience would you place PEMF at the top of your list for healing modalities or something else?

Have you purchased a full body PEMF device? If so which one and if not have you narrowed it down to a few? I just purchased a ICES M1 and if it does anything subjectively positive l would like to invest in one (hopefully semi reasonably priced)

#122

In my experience PEMF heals or supports the healing of injuries that nothing else does. It can take time, but it works.

I do not have a full body PEMF device. I have the ICESĀ® DigiCeuticalĀ® A9 Model System. Your M1 device appears to do the same things.

RufusDawes in Anyone want to discuss PEMF Therapy, links to a guy that has DIY PEMF devices including large mats.

Given Iā€™ve never come across any contraindications using PEMF (at least at the levels Bob Dennis recommends), I donā€™t know why one wouldnā€™t use a full body mat in or under one mattress every night.

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#123

A future competitor to the Catalyst EMS suit?

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#124

I just added to my Timed Static Contraction station.
Iā€™ve used a rack from which I have rings hanging (see 1stt image) and a bar I can move up & down (see 2nd image)

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I can quickly adjust the bar to do most standing pushing and pulling exercises - over head press, pulls, squat, dead lift, shoulder shrug.

Timed Static Contractions last 90 seconds divided into 3 increments:

  • 1st 30 seconds 1/2 capacity
  • 2nd 30 seconds 3/4 capacity
  • 3rd 30 seconds maximum capacity.

I view the first 60 seconds as keeping you from hurting yourself when you get to the maximum effort.

Doing this correctly gives one massive inroad across all the muscle fibers used.
Absolutely a High Intensity Training protocol.

The protocol has the problem that one canā€™t measure force applied pushing or pulling a fixed bar.

Some fancy and expensive devices can do this, I found something inexpensive and effective.

Stainless steel platform sitting on the floor between the rack uprights in the 2nd photo.
A veterinary/livestock scale with a 300 kg | 660 lb capacity and a mountable digital readout.

They use these things to weight pigs and sheep!

I got mine from Temu for $132.

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I plan to add a plywood platform and layer of thin yoga mat.

I set the scale to zero out my body weight. Then it pretty accurately gives me the force I apply.

Not perfect, but it gives me a means to measure what the protocol needs to measure.

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#125

That sounds amazing! Could you share more info on the exact device and protocol you used to get these results in your knee?

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#126

Already mentioned in this threadā€¦

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#127

Thanks for the info.

You claimed to have used it every night while you slept. Do you mean you used it for the whole duration of sleep, i.e. 6-8 hours a night? How did you wear it? Did you place the two coils on each side of the knee?

#128

@Olafurpall

You claimed to have used it every night while you slept. Do you mean you used it for the whole duration of sleep, i.e. 6-8 hours a night? How did you wear it? Did you place the two coils on each side of the knee?

I used it through my entire time sleeping. One coil on each side of the knee (2 in total).

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#129

I have a high powered full body (ish) PEMF device, but they donā€™t recommend more than 12 minutes at a time.

#130

@John_Hemming how often do you use Hugo PEMF and what benefits would you say you have gotten from it?

#131

I use it daily when I am at home. What I am looking for are mitochondrial improvements. I know it has an effect because I can feel it and I noticed an improvement in the function of my digestive system. That implies it has a broader improvement, but I can specifically identify the effect on the digestive system as being caused by Hugo. Hence I make the assumption that the same mitochondrial improvements occur in other tissues noting the inverse cube power issue.

I only run it for 12 minutes a day, however.

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#132

Itā€™s nice to hear anecdotal benefits. Thanks for sharing.

#133

I wouldnā€™t read too much into what they recommend. Some studies use a lot longer durations in the range of hours. Just because they donā€™t recommend more than 12 minutes doesnā€™t mean their device is necessarily more high powered than other devices or that longer time canā€™t be better. Itā€™s really hard to make general recommendations on PEMF therapy because the literature is all over the place.

I donā€™t think itā€™s reasonable for you to conclude that you feeling better implies mitochondrial improvements. It could be any number of other things In fact I find it unlikely that mitochondria are responsible for the benefits youā€™re noticing because looking at the literature on PEMF I did not find any evidence of them influencing mitochondria in particular.

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#134

I wanted to share my experience. I have been using a micro-pulse PEMF device for about 5 months. As noted by other posters and in other threads, there is something to it at least for inflammation. I have been using it on my knees to heal tweaks faster and reduce pain. Also other family members have used it for vagal nerve pain and aches and pains. @Alpha believes it can actually restore tissue and given my limited experience, itā€™s plausible.

I am persuaded to go to the next level. I am looking to purchase a mat to sleep on at night. Any affordable recommendations would be welcomed. The 2 brands l am considering at the moment are the OMI Beyond and the Celler8.

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#135

More than plausible. I have before and after imaging that proves the regrowth of cartilage in my right knee.

I would read through the information on the micro-pulse site before setting on buying any particular device.

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