#22

Thanks, yes I did watch this one. LDL is a broad swath of particles. Only a few are bad. The rest are good and useful.

So as a farmer I would say they need a statin with a softer footprint. Chemical companies are trying to come up with insecticides that target just certain insects. It’s a lot like that. Now we have to kill all insects in an alfalfa field in order to stop just one (leaf hopper). There are dozens of species and many are good guys. Many are neutral. So it pays to kill them all and that’s the way it’s always been done. I think it’s important to understand that. I helped do a trial on one and it actually worked, but it’s not come to market to my knowlege. Probably not worth it for the company.

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#23

I doubt you watch Greg Hunter USA Watchdog. He’s way out there but finds interesting people and has interesting conversations with them. He’s had Mark Crispin Miller on twice now. He taught a course on Propaganda at NYU for years and was of course a liberal. Now he’s watching propaganda take place and he’s doing his best to stop it:

It’s just his opinion folks, you have all the rest of MSM. You can listen to them day and night.

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#24

Apo B / LDL should change faster than that. My cardiologist said to test after 3 months to both me and my mother if different med strategies. I tested already after a month and saw results it’s one of the more frequent things I’m testing now (until I’ve calibrated exactly where I want to be).

Apo B is relatively cheap or to save more a traditional cholesterol panel is almost no cost at all at $17 dollars I think (at least in the US via Quest / UltaLabs).

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#25

I started statins just recently (mini doses), but have been on K2 for years. Nevertheless, I happened to accumulate coronary calcium. K2 didn’t prevent it.

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#26

So people naturally ate a small breakfast, but some shoddy surveys and marketing made people eat a larger breakfast. And bacon & eggs for it, while typically people ate a little bit of carbs for breakfast before that period.

#27

“Cascade” should be very easy to do an N of one experiment/trial. To show any effects

I post this again;

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#28

BTW how’s your Cavadex going for you? Any noticeable results?

#29

I was on pretty big doses of K2 for years and still got a surprise CAC of 285 in 2020. I got off carbs, strictly Keto for a while and started running daily. 1 year later it was 323 and I was crushed because I really put a lot of effort into this which included losing nearly 30 lbs. And the exercise plus keto plus starting Rapa had me cramping quite a bit and my electrolytes must have been a little messed up so I got the a-fib in there too. I blamed the a-fib on NAC, probably rightfully so. Then I saw this just the other day:

http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v19n43.shtml

And the author has a Phd, so he may be right. I’ve been taking potassium citrate since but not at the rate he is.

So my next CAC in early feb of this year was 303, so I backed it up 20 points and moved it out of the LM almost entirely. My feeling is that the disease takes a while to resolve. Might be looking at years since it takes years for the lesions to turn into plaque. Just had my CAC this morning so should know soon whether the Cavidex did anything. I only managed to use one box (32 doses) and did not get consistently good yield. Still they have sold me on the concept if not the delivery method. I’ll post my results somewhere here when I get them.

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#30

Doing keto certainly wasn’t helping in your case. Try to crush your LDL-C below 55mg/dL with medication.

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#31

Probably just measurement error. Just try to reduce risk of an event by using medications that do show a reduction in clinical trials. I hope you are taking anticoagulants if a doctor tells you to for the afib as well, that do show a reduction in events of stroke in clinical trials.

Clinical trials, clinical trials, clinical trials. Anything else is just theory and noise. Experimental evidence wins every time.

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#32

My theory on various foods or diets is that they may be good in preventing certain health conditions, but they do little to nothing to reverse/correct an existing condition.

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#33

Even if keto may help lower inflammation (no clinical data for that yet), the sheer amount of saturated fat in it makes more than up for that. Even in the recent Lean Mass Hyper-Responder study, the keto group still had progression of their arterial plaque despite having optimal health otherwise.

#34

May I ask what doses of K2 had you been using?

#35

My older brother had a CAC last year of 63, asked me what to do and I said to take nattokinase 10000fu daily. Because at the time the study had come out and that seemed the thing to do. He did it for the entire year, just did his CAC and it was 50. So this seems to work. He walks 4 miles every day too and is full time farmer.

I took 12000fu for a while then quit because I got PRP in my elbow and it was not healing the way it should have been and somebody here said to not take a fibrinolytic with PRP. So I quit and the elbow did heal.

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#36

If you’re getting positive CAC scores, I’d really suggest either bempedoic acid, fibrate or a statin plus ezetimibe. A positive CAC is a pretty dire warning to take more serious steps.

Dr. Attia recommends bempedoic acid + ezetimibe which is exactly what I am trying next.

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#37

You may want to switch from keto diet to a whole foods plant based or a starch-based diet (look up McDougall diet). Try it for a few weeks and if you don’t cheat, I bet your CAC score, along with cholesterol and weight will all improve.

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#38

What about Ca AKG for life extension? There used to be a lot of buzz about it.

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#39

It’s Thorne Vit K (K 1 and two forms of K2). It says Vit K - 6090 mcg or 5075%

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#40

Please note that the level of precision/variability in CAC tests almost certainly means that there is no signal / no statistical difference and probably also no clinical difference between a CAC of 50 and 63.

The one thing that there may be a signal about in this case is that it may indicate that there has not been a large increase in measurable plaque.

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#41

Ok so clearly it wasn’t an issue of not getting enough of it. All my blood markers look perfect but my husband has pretty high lipids and cholesterol. His CAC is zero and he tends to downplay it but I’m setting up an intervention of supplements. K2 is one of them, but looking to throw the whole kitchen sink at it.

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