I don’t believe there is a clinical trial showing significant improvement or at least maintenance in hair counts with SP. Given that it’s a supplement, effects and side effects are also obviously understudied, i.e. not necessarily safer than finasteride.

Stress has been anecdotally related to a variety of changes in tissues, including hair greying. The mechanism by which stress causes hair greying has been dissected. Hair pigmentation is controlled by melanocytes, which are derived from melanocyte stem cells (MeSCs) in hair follicles. At anagen, a tiny number of MeSCs are activated and differentiated into melanocytes that migrate downward to the hair bulb and synthesize melanin which colors the newly regenerated hair. The other MeSCs remain in the stem cell niche of hair follicle and are activated in subsequent cycles. At catagen, mature melanocytes are destroyed. Moreover, under stress, the body’s sympathetic nervous system releases noradrenaline (NA), which acts directly on the β2-adrenoceptor of hair follicle bulge, causes almost all MeSCs to lose quiescence and undergo rapid proliferation followed by differentiation and migration, leading to their loss in the niche, which eventually leads to hair greying in subsequent cycles. Even so, there is still no product available to treat and prevent hair greying currently. Therefore, blocking NA action on the β2-adrenoceptor is a key to preventing melanin stem cell depletion and hair greying. β2-adrenoceptor blockers have been used for many years and are widely used to treat diseases such as hypertension and asthma, and their safety is guaranteed [11]. Propranolol is one of the most classic β2-adrenoceptor blockers, and we selected it as the positive control for subsequent operations and experiments.

Mice treated with propranolol and isoliensinine showed a significant reduction in the area of white hair on the dorsal skin. Statistical analysis result showed that propranolol and isoliensinine significantly reduced the grey hair ratios to 7.5% and 9.6%, respectively, (P < 0.05). Above-mentioned data suggested that isoliensinine effectively inhibit the stress-induced hair greying.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2023/7238029

The result showed that gray hair areas on the RTX-treated control mice was 28.5%, while with the treatment of propranolol and rhynchophylline, gray hair areas were significantly reduced to 7.5% and 8.2%, respectively. We further analyzed the single cell transcriptome data from previous studies and confirmed β2AR are dominantly expressed on melanocytes, in both mice and human skin.

As mentioned above, in our study, NA treated cells showed changes in calcium signals, cell apoptosis, and down-regulation of melanin synthesis, which were prevented after the addition of Rhynchophylline. Therefore, we proposed a hypothesis that NA affects calcium homeostasis by regulating cAMP pathway, which further leads to cell apoptosis and affects melanin production. However, the deeper connection between these pathways needs to be further explored.

So, if you’re worried about graying, you can either use topical propranolol or take it as a pill.

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What’s the best commercially available shampoo for hair growth, or to prevent hair loss? Currently I’m using the Intelligent brand Intelligent Super Volumizing Shampoo – Intelligent Shop

Curious if there is anything else out there I should consider… not interested in making my own at this time

Does DHT cause hair loss even in those without genetic susceptibility to it? Meaning that it just takes longer time. For example people with high LDL levels get atheroschlerosis faster than those with lower levels, but they eventually get it too, so is it the same with DHT?

Dutasteride taken as a pill. The next best thing is finasteride, taken as a pill or topically.

In my broscience view, the relationship between DHT, androgen receptors and hair follicles is the same as between apoB, cell walls and blood vessels. High DHT (apoB) + lots of androgen receptors (high permittability) => rip hair follicle (lots of plaque buildup and rupture). Moderate DHT and moderate number of androgen receptors and you only develop hairloss starting only in your 30s or 40s.

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I feel my hair growth seemed to slow down (significantly) while I was taking Rapa. It seemed stuck at waist length, whereas since I stopped Rapa it has grown quite a bit. Is this something others have experienced also?

In folklore, pumpkin has a reputation of reducing libido. “Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater, had a wife and couldn’t keep her.”

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Anyone heard of using aloe vera pulp and rosemary tea mixed for hair growth and hair pigmentation?

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Omg as a 71 year old woman, you’re saying I can get Rapamycin to put on my face for wrinkles? I was going to stop the oral……but this I’m all in. ,-) And I didn’t even know I could get minoxidil OTC as no hair issues until just recently. Gonna get some of that! Glad I saw your post. TY.

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Has the group addressed all the hair vitamins on the market and if anything is worth trying?

My friend has been raving about this Mary Ruth supplement, but I wonder if there is a real benefit to this, or any of the competing brands… thoughts?

Unless you have deficiencies, don’t bother.

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There is a separate thread on this forum about it. Some are actually testing it and may report their findings hopefully soon.

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Minoxidil growth peaks after 6 months so about now would be the time some hyperresponder should be seeing huge results on monotherapy if that sugar really works as a growth stimulant.

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See this thread Researchers reveal new molecular mechanism for stimulating hair growth - #5 by RapAdmin

Another new product for stimulating hair growth:

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01 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0923181117300269

02 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0378512214003259

03 Based on data from clinical studies and/or lab studies conducted on human skin samples, 3D skin models, and skin or hair cells in the OneSkin lab. Explore more at oneskin.co/claims.

04 https://karger.com/drm/article/239/4/533/836627/Cellular-Senescence-Ageing-and-Androgenetic

05 https://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(15)33852-5/fulltext

06 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39614601/

07 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5556182/

08 Zonari, A., et al. npj Aging, 2023

09 Shown in 6 month double-blind, independent, third-party clinical study with 30 participants using OS-01 HAIR and dermaroller daily. Results based on self-perception reporting and clinical measurements of anagen hairs per cm2, intermediate terminal hairs, hair shaft thickness, inter follicular mean distance, hair count per cm2, and scalp microbiome.

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Could any beta-blocker have the same effect if combined with Rhynchophylline (Cat’s claw)? I wouldn’t want to switch from Nebivolol, but could easily add Cat’s claw to try.

I’ve been thinking about giving this a try in addition to the potent topical I’m using. Although, their OS-1 Face cream didn’t do much for me.

Yes, Its interesting but I need to review the science they point to.

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