Beth
#80
Someone in Layne’s comments on insta asked if there are good vegan protein powders because they were told to stop consuming whey by their doc. Layne only snapped back there is no reason to give up whey. I know he feels you can get quality protein from some plant based protein powders, I’ve heard him say as much, but the person on the receiving end of that comment doesn’t know that.
Even though I like Layne, he has also taught me to take everything he says with a grain of salt because he gets very defensive at the idea of not eating meat and might leave out some good guidance if you don’t want to.
And on that note,
I use pea protein powder. Does anyone use potato?
Open to using the best plant based protein powder if anyone has anything to share.
And on that note, he kept comparing whey to wheat protein… well, if talking about whey, why not compare it to pea if you want to be more realistic
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Then again, they all died from typical causes.
LaraPo
#82
It would be true if we wanted to live to 25-30 as they did million years ago when meet and fat were their preferred diet. In other words you cannot have exactly the same diet and expect completely different results.
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gerard
#83
You don’t know what you’re talking about, in the Paleolithic era there was much higher infant mortality, that’s why we had a reduced life expectancy.
Life expectancy is a mathematical average, let me explain: imagine a man of 70 years old has died, and also a 20-year-old pregnant woman who died in childbirth along with her baby.
70 years + 20 years + 0 years = 90 years
90 / 3 individuals = 30 years of life expectancy.
In the Paleolithic, we were stronger, taller, and had a larger brain.
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gerard
#84
I recommend you watch this video to understand how important fat is for having a healthy brain.
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Guys, please lets not turn this into a diet flame war. I really don’t think there is a ton to be gained by anyone in these plant vs. meat battles. Nobody is going to convince the other and everyone can find some sort of source that supports their viewpoint.
Most of us here are probably flexitarians, eating vegetables, and meats. The latest research seems to support the idea vegetables are great (for slower organ aging), meat of most types is probably also fine. see below…
So, please, lets not waste a lot of time and digital bits on this argument.
The Third Study
We’re back to Tony Wyss-Corsay and colleagues with a recent preprint of their study of 44,000 UK Biobank participants, 3,000 plasma proteins, for 11 organ-specific clocks. This work fully replicated their earlier publication but again there were a notable extension of findings.
Seen below is the relationship of various interventions including smoking, alcohol, moderate or vigorous exercise, foods on organ-specific age gaps.
Source: Teal Proteomics 2024 launch - Organ Specific Biological Clock - #9 by RapAdmin
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AnUser
#86
Layne seems kind of average, to be honest, and although irrelevant, it looks to me like he’s going to cry all the time and struggling to breathe, the latter which might be because of steroid use?
Nothing against Layne but he seems like an average Joe who somehow got a Ph.D.
So he read the study but could not process it, despite his education in the area.
AnUser
#87
The carnivore people seem smarter than him.
LaraPo
#88
I believe in evolution and progress. We are much better now than we were before. Also, bigger is not always better.
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Amen brother on the diet wars! And that’s an interesting chart.
ng0rge
#90
I hope by “interesting” you mean “stupid”…sorry @RapAdmin but look at that damn thing. It appears that red is bad and blue is good (sorry, I’m a simpleton). So, ModExercise, Freshfruit and Cookedvegetable are “bad” for the Muscle? Tea is mostly bad for everything except the Kidney? Freshfruit is also “bad” for the Immune system?
AnUser
#91
I feel like we’re going in circles, like we’re lost in the forest, squinting our eyes over graphs trying to deduce whether Freshfruit or Cookedvegetalbe is better for our “kidney aging”. Meanwhile Zuck in his Hawaii bunker laughing his ass off as he’s waiting Serum X-234 injection that will reverse his age, truly.
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ng0rge
#92
Holy Cow! How could I have never even heard of this?
https://aobiologix.com/products/serum-x
And injecting it…that’s genius!
Wait…here it even comes with the hypodermics!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283701795300
Here is the paper’s statement on that chart:
and the color represents either a postitive or negative age correlation in the “age-gap”, as measured and described here:
and so the red indicates a negative “age gap” impact on that organ, from the protein analysis. So some of these factors like tea seems to make some organs age a little faster (e.g. Artery and Lung) than non-users of that food/drink/lifestyle. And of course - by “Tea” in this UK-based cohort, they are probably talking about Earl Grey black tea, not Chinese green tea with lots of ECGC.
Seems believable to me.
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Regarding tea there is also the issue in the UK that most people take their tea with milk and sugar. Studies in china overwhelmingly show robust benefits for tea drinking and I don’t think it is just the green black difference. Equally with bread, rye bread or ezekiel bread is almost certainly good for your health but walk down a supermarket aisle in the UK and 90% of the bread is white.
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I’m thinking of the gurus who sit with their eyes closed, legs crossed, and chant but do nothing else. Some claim they can go for months without eating. They don’t accomplish anything and they don’t reproduce. They may live longer, if you call that living. There is a difference in the Soma and the Genome. The Genome grows and reproduces; the Soma preserves and survives to have a chance to reproduce at a future time.
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AnUser
#96
What does any of that even mean?
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Yeah that’s very similar to eating beans
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LaraPo
#98
Are you trying to parallel it to a plant protein diet?
I’m comparing it to a diet that does not give you the necessary nutrients. Starvation, up to a point, may also extend life for an individual, but probably isn’t a good thing for the species.
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