约瑟夫
#391
Yes, it is!
Print out the transcript and make notes.
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CJZ
#392
Good results with Skye @Davin8r ? I’ve never used them but like that level of testing and their site looks very professional. Always nice to have a referred supplier to add to the list!
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zebit0
#393
Skye is great. Though domestic is always more pricy than Chinese suppliers it is well tested (Jano) and experiences are good. Including replacement of items that cloud or have issues.
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Davin8r
#394
Skye is pricey indeed, but worth every penny IMO.
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PBJ
#395
A website putting up testing results is meaningless when it comes to quality. The only true way to know is to test it yourself. Then, even if the quality is ok, you are still experimenting with unapproved peptides with cancer causing potential. Good luck.
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Davin8r
#396
The test results are cross referenced to the testing company’s web site via a unique key so you can go to the testing company’s web site and verify the results, so it’s not meaningless. That being said, there are risks inherent in anything, so each person needs to make his own (hopefully well-informed) risk/benefit analysis.
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PBJ
#397
How do you know what they submitted to the testing company? They could buy from a legit US supplier for a test and put something else in the product they sell.
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zebit0
#398
That’s fair - the only way to be sure is to submit samples for analysis. Jano seems to be the current gold standard but there are other labs. Skye’s owner had been active in other forums and their products have been vetted but I’m not aware of independent testing (user submitted samples). That said, I’m confident in Skye after some use and conversations with them plus others who used their products, in particular AOD. Though I’ve discontinued AOD myself, just doesn’t have the research evidence at this point.
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A counter opinion by a doctor active on social media:
Source: x.com
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“these peptides” is a pretty random and useless statement.
Considering humans are peptide factories making about 7,000 peptides daily, which peptides does he have an issue with?
BPC157? made in the gastro intestinal tract of humans
GHK-cu made in a variety of tissues?
Insulin?
Too many to list.
Is he talking about peptides that are close to human produced like GLP1 but modified to work a bit differently and have been in use for over 12 years in millions of people?
I’m sure that like drugs, there are peptides that are dangerous but to blindly make a statement like “these peptides” diminished his credibility in my opinion.
There are probably 1000 times more people using peptides that are not approved than using the incredibly dangerous drug rapamycin 
A little info on GHK-cu, while it is old news it’s been used topically and injection by a LOT of people
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约瑟夫
#401
FWIW…
A basic medical book on peptides;
“Peptide Protocols: Volume One”
By William A Seeds MD
There’s an audio version available on audiobooks.com
That is the version I purchased
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Bruce
#402
His death was an accident, that all I can share.
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约瑟夫
#404
Thank you
I like to listen to the audio version of books as I read the printed version.
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Very good, but quite dated and incomplete.
The science and understanding of peptides has increased greatly since this publication.
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约瑟夫
#406
For those who may not know
Vladimir Khavinson’s web site, most of his work on one location.
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Tim
#407
How is it “dated and incomplete”? I found it to be useful. Very few sources, including the Huberman video, are as comprehensive. Dr. Koniver knows his stuff and is completely trustworthy, but he covers only a few peptides, and only occasionally mentions doses, in all of his many videos. Most of these videos are an hour long or more, which can be a hard slog for only a few nuggets of information.
By the way, you’d like Huberman even less than you do now if you read the profile that The New Yorker did on him.
P.S. For those of you who inject GHK-cu and have a reaction at the injection site, I found relief by rubbing the site with Benadryl cream.
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medaura
#408
I read it a while ago:
Interesting enough, I never was a follower/ listener of his and had only heard his name mentioned second hand on this forum so had formed a vague awareness of him as an “influencer” in the bio hacking / longevity field. After the New Yorker piece though I was curious so I checked him out on a couple of episodes he co-hosted with Peter Attia on the Drive. And I will never know how much the article is biasing me despite my conscious attempt to bring a fully open, agnostic mind to the matter, but my God, the man sounds like a total douchebag! New agey emphasis on the importance of the content of his dreams, generally sophomoric comments, and an insufferable voice. Maybe he’s completely different on his own podcast but life is too short for me to spend another half hour subjecting myself to the scratchy blathering of that voice. Also, while normally I make huge allowances for how people behave in their personal life vs their professional work, it’s hard to trust someone to tell you what he sincerely believes to be the truth on topics of research when he has a chronic habit of lying to people around him. But to each his own.
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It only covers a fraction of the peptides available from popular peptide suppliers, and by a misunderstanding of the dosing of etalon vs. epithalamion.
Also, some of the dosing of other peptides does not agree with what is recommended by more recent sources.
Peptide research is advancing rapidly, and a 3—or 4-year time lag makes this a dated publication. However, I think there is some valuable information in the book.
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约瑟夫
#410
FWIW
William A Seeds MD is an orthopedic surgeon, who has used peptides in his practice for the last decade.
He also operates medical training course’s for MD’s / health care providers on the use of peptides.
In my view his published book is a good starting point if you have an interest in peptides.
