Source: https://x.com/theepicmap/status/1919609839677821045

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If one factors out economic / wealth conditions are there any other patterns we can learn from?

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Money and sunlight buy you years, all things being equal.

https://x.com/medical_xpress/status/1919475366676021288

It’s amazing that the wealthier more educated demographic in the USA doesn’t fare so well against the same demographic in other first world countries when it comes to life expectancy. It seems that somehow the demographic shift in the USA didn’t include a cleaner safer environment with less adulterated food sources. An example would be south eastern Pennsylvania that has some of the worst air in the country. Yet, is very affluent. On the nutrition side of it, there is virtually no policing of sketchy food additives. In the USA the supposedly intelligent class is breathing the same raunchy air and eating the same raunchy food.

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Is that the case though? Seems like more sunlight in the southern states in red bars vs the green bars with at least NY, MA, if not also D.C.

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It appears we should be trying to move to Monaco :wink:

Source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-life-expectancy-by-country-in-2025/

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The infographic above seems to be inaccurate as China has a life expectancy that is currently higher than the USA and rising faster than the USA.

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Can’t comment on the pace, but the many authorities cited here indicate that the US’ life expectancy is still higher than China’s.

Key Takeaways

  • U.S. life expectancy at birth for men is about 74, versus 79 for women.
  • However as Americans age, their potential lifespan increases as well.
  • At 75, an American man can expect to live to 86, which is 12 years longer than the life expectancy at birth.

Source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-much-time-americans-have-left-to-live-by-age/

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I’m sorry RapAdmin, but that article on American kids is a bunch of BS. Those kids are way smarter than any of us, and in better health (at least prospectively). We - most on this board - are early termers. We picked the wrong birth years, were overly anxious and had a lack of self control, we couldn’t delay gratification and were born early. Now look at our bodies. I bet you’d swap yours for any of those kids bodies. They were much smarter, had nerves of steel, knew to wait, and had self control, they picked birth years which allow for much greater medical progress and even lifespan breakthroughs. We popped way too early. Look at the state of medical science. Many of us looked at the state of technology - ooh, computers, biotech, AI, self driving cars, human genome project DNA mapped out - time to come out and enjoy life! Not so fast. Of course, our grandfathers were even worse - they saw the birth of flight, airplanes, submarines, antibiotics, atomic power, and thought “now is the time! I’m coming out!”. Look what that got them - an early death. But these kids? They knew to wait. They were looking ahead and saw that genetic engineering is where it’s at and saw CRISPR, global warming still sublethal, some enviroment still left unpolluted - “OK, NOW is the time! Sure, we are fat, but there are all these drugs to make us thin, soon medical science will be advanced enough so we can eat our cake (literally) and have it too!”. Much smarter than any of us, and thanks to medical science will be much healthier too in the long run.

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I for one very much doubt I had a say for when I would be born but if you have a way to prove to me otherwise, I’m all ears LOL.

Haha, get your frustration with thinking we are a bit too early, but I think otherwise. The next ten years (in which time we all on these boards will be alive) there will breakthroughs in health and longevity in a scale unimaginable today. No worries, bud you’re late enough to reap some of the benefits.

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I hope you are kidding or a little tipsy maybe :clinking_glasses:but definitely not serious :grinning: So they are a little (a LITTLE?) fat, but there’s a pill. Nice thought. What pill? Ozempic? Have you seen anybody healthy who’s on Ozempic? I have not. And there’s a really big problem with kids being overweight in the U.S. I know what my granddaughter is fed for lunch at school. And it’s terrifying.

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