#142

Peter Attia’s workout:

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#143

Hi @Paul_2.0 do you have any color re other programs like this?

I posted about something coming from Blueprint, is there anything else worth looking into?

(I’m aware of the more testing focus programs from Human Longevity/Health Nucleus and now from Fountain Life, so not color on those needed)

#144

Has anyone heard anything more / new about this?

#145

not yet - I’m on the list to learn more but have not heard anything yet…

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#146

Has anyone else signed up and tried Early? What has your experience been?

@Texasgirl and @zmm how far through the program have you gotten?

Is the program friendly to do as a couple / family? Specifically if I signed up would we able to do things as a family, at least my wife and I both?

@lab-rat , re “My sense is that I’ll probably buy in for the Early service”, did you pull the trigger?

Did you pull the trigger, how has your experience been?

#147

I’m on Section 3.4 out of 12 modules. There is reasonable homework putting together the suggested labs and the family history. Just getting to the part where we start figuring out what our personal icebergs are.

Now I think we are getting beyond anything I have heard on the podcasts or the book. Or maybe it’s just more applied using your own personal information.

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#148

Thank you @Texasgirl

Is the program friendly to do as a couple / family? Specifically, if I signed up would my family be able to go through the program together, at least my wife and I both?

#149

I think doing it together with your wife would work out well. My husband isn’t interested so I do it alone.

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#150

It you have kids, make sure you leave the family history that you put together where they have access to it when they get to an age that they are interested. I view myself as an n of 1 experiment and hope to document the results for my adult kids for their future use.

How cool would it be if your parents documented their health journey so that you could benefit from their experience!

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#151

Yes, have been thinking about it similarly!

#152

My parents just died so I have recent knowledge of what ailments they had and what caused their demise. At least I can try to delay those ailments.

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#153

Sorry to hear about their recent passing.

Good for you and their grandchildren that you have the info.

#154

Its all about aligning the incentives … right now there is no financial incentive for any group in the healthcare system to prevent future illness. They get paid fee for service - so the more service, the more they make… The incentive system in the US is all backwards.

Longevity pioneer Peter Attia explains why the quest to live longer is constrained by the US healthcare system

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Back when Attia wanted his first colonoscopy at age 40, instead of the recommended 50 (now it’s age 45), he had to “fight like hell” to get it. Insurance wouldn’t cover it, so he paid with his own money.

For Attia, it was well worth it because a good 5% of people who die of colon cancer are diagnosed with a cancer that occurs at or before the age of 40, he said.

“That’s not a huge number, but it’s not zero,” Attia said.

You would think, Roll said, that there would be a lot of financial incentive to front-load patients with these types of tests and early detection scenarios to avoid these costs later down the line.

But the behemoth US healthcare system sees it differently.

Attia is from Canada, where the single-payer system has plenty of problems, he said. But it does two things well. First, everyone gets healthcare, Attia said. Nobody in Canada is on their way to bankruptcy court right now due to medical bills.

“But the second thing that a single payer system does very well — and this gets to the heart of what you’re asking about, Rich — is the payer owns the risk for life, so there is an incentive to prevent,” Attia said.

“Right now my health insurance is Aetna. Two years ago it was Blue Cross. Three years from now it’s going to be United. What incentive does Aetna have today to care about spending a dollar on me when they are pretty much positive they will not own my risk in 20 years when the chickens come to roost,” Attia continued. “That’s the fundamental problem.”

“Until you fix that problem, until there is true risk ownership between the patient and the payer and the provider, and that is carried out over the course of your life, there is no incentive for them to carry any of that risk,” he added.

Full Paper Here: https://archive.ph/3OVG6

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#155

I am LT Attia’s follower, admire his scientific mind and clarity, good directional thinking on mTOR, ApoE, and exercise. He is an elitist in that his program is geared towards the quite rich. And he is an exercise addict, and hence VO2 max obsession. Good to listen to but not really affordable or practical for the average Joe.

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#156

would you be open to share that excel sheet with recommended tests and ranges? I’ve been on the waitlist for months and still waiting

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#157

Attila’s “Early” program will open again for limited enrollment.

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#158

Given that the program will open soon (for a limited time it seems):

@Texasgirl and @zmm any updates now that much more time has gone by?

@lab-rat ?

Anyone else with experience of the program?

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#159

How could it be worth it (value out vs value in) to anyone who is active in this space? What could Attila’s team know that is not already available to us? Experience with Attila’s clients? Why would that apply to me? Is it simply a comfort effect? A convenience? Someone to talk to?

I would never do it. I couldn’t trust them to do my thinking for me.

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#160

Attia is promoting many ideas antithetical to the mainstream selling programs that appeal to people with more money than brains. I don’t consider him to be an authority, just a person with a big audience. Now that he’s aligned himself with Oprah, there’s no doubt that he’s going the Dr. Oz route. He’s more huckster than scientist. I don’t think he would disagree with this.

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#161

Everyone needs to make a living. However, there is more useful information on Rapamycin News than any youtube channel I am aware of.

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