#9

Any update on results?

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#10

I went from a lead of 12 to a lead of 8. They are kind of busy there and act like they don’t have to send me a copy. I need to find a different place.

12 is what the treatment is removing, so 8 means I’m getting less efficient. Less bang for each gram.

My new plan is to do a gram of DMSA weekly. Going long and slow is better for a couple reasons. They say you get better yield by waiting a bit because the lead needs to diffuse into the area of treatment where it can be removed.

This doesn’t make sense to me but they have numbers, so it must be true. Don’t I get blood to every cell in my body? How far does it need to move? Why would it move? Never mind.

Low and slow is better because it takes good minerals too and I need to constantly resupply. I can’t believe my ferritin went from 300 to 73 just in this short time. Probably a good thing for me but some would not like that.

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#11

That’s very good to know. I just increased my ferritin from 18 in early March to 101 at the end of April.

Did you happen to measure any other metals, such as mercury?

#12

Top of this page is my Mercury, it’s really low. Yes, I did the same test again and had to call them and ask for it, they acted like they would send it right out. It never came. I called again and got the owner, she’s there all the time, said she’d take care of it…read me some of the stuff off of it, then it’s been days and no email.

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#13

I see in some of your posts, you have a higher cac score than you would like. I am fascinated to see how that would be effected by the chelation therapy.

#14

Retest for that is January when they have a special sale on the CAC at the local hospital.

#15

Finally got here:

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Aluminum was actually up from 10 to 18, suspicious
Barium went up too from 15 to 18, no procedures done
Cadmium and cesium went up
nickel and thorium almost doubled
Uranium went down about like lead.

It makes no sense that so many of them went up by so much. I’m going to be optimistic and say that my hydration or some other thing made them all go up, but lead and uranium had gone down by so much that it got drowned out.

Any other ideas?

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#16

By the way, I’d really appreciate follow-up posts on this. In particular, I’d like to know if chelation reduces your cac score. I have read that the therapy should be combined with tetracycline for best effect - is that part of your therapy?

#17

Big new trial showing no effect of chelation therapy. Author’s theory is that only those with high amounts of lead in their system would benefit, and lead has been decreasing since the original TACT1 trial. Also, all the other cardio meds being used now might have masked any would-be benefit. Bottom line is that even in diabetic patients post-MI, chelation therapy had no effect and is both expensive and quite time-consuming.

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#18

I did notice this trial. It’s people who have had MI and diabetes and median age is 67, they did it for 40 weeks. Mean hba1c is 7.5. These are very sick old people and they more than doubled the amount of chelation I did.

I wonder whether taking out the calcium does anything good for you at all. Mine aren’t plugged and it probably stabilizes the plaque. I think it’s great to get rid of the lead, aluminum cadmium, nickel…it didn’t really do that though for me yet

It appears that their test is not very accurate on actual quantity, but is probably on proportion.

In this paper:

https://sci-hub.wf/10.1016/j.jtemb.2014.10.001

They are really hard on EDTA unless you are poisoned. DMSA not so much, it is the chelator of choice. The other thing is that EDTA takes lots of time and money and you can’t afford it. EDTA can put the lead into your brain, DMSA is proven to take lead from the brain. Lots of things convince me to continue to slowly use DMSA to reduce lead and uranium. I’d like my uranium to be zero.

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#19

FWIW

The medical book{for Medical Doctor’s] is ;

“A Textbook on EDTA Chelation Therapy: Second Edition / Edition 2”
by Elmer M. Cranton MD

Mg EDTA is what should be used for treating Arteriosclerosis.

Arteriosclerosis

“Arteriosclerosis is similar to atherosclerosis, but instead of fatty deposits hardening the artery walls, calcium deposits do so.”.

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#20

They had sodium or calcium EDTA. They said sodium is for people with heart disease, so that was what they gave me. I didn’t really do that much of the EDTA, 6 total. Nobody mentioned Mg.

#21

No, I didn’t know tetracycline was such a good chelator. It is really good for iron and also pretty good for calcium according to what I read last night.

Thanks for mentioning it.

#22

The Lamas study did not address their diabetes, from which one could conclude that eliminating lead and cadmium from the bloodstream does not help you much if you still have diabetes.

I wonder whether taking out the calcium does anything good for you at all.

If your arteries are clogged then it should.

This paper claims that EDTA chelation can reverse calcification; " Calcifications disappeared completely in 62.5% of the patients in the study group and partially in 22.5%; calcifications partially disappeared in only 15% of the patients in the control group, and none displayed a complete disappearance."

Efficacy of reversal of aortic calcification by chelating agents - PMC (nih.gov)

Another interesting claim in the paper is that calcification is caused by nanobacteria and therefore tetracycline should be used as part of the chelation therapy in order to kill the nanobacteria. Appears that the Lamas study did not use any antibiotics which may have contributed to the ineffective result.

I’m not personally committed to any of these hypotheses - I don’t know enough to say - but I think they’re worth considering.

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#23

I did buy doxycycline 50mg from india last time and have not started taking them yet. I know they inhibit MMP and are supposed to be good for heart disease, but didn’t know completely why. These papers help. I don’t like the idea of taking it long term, I’m taking so much goofy stuff already.

#24

I’ve found another chelating agent that is cheap and safe. Pectasol. I know, it’s for cancer. But here is a really good read:

https://www.wellesu.com/https://doi.org/10.1159/000109829

The alginates are in another product from Eco Nugenics called glypho detox. It’s intended to be used to remove glyphosate and other pesticides from your blood, but works well for heavy metals too:

I’m going to do a few months on this and see what happens. I don’t see the down side. Challenges are expensive and my daughter and sister in law say it is a big part of the reason they survived their cancer.

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#25

I’ve read about modified citrus peels (MCP). I do not know what, and how they modify. Would ordinary peels have the same benefit?

This youtuber styling herself as The Biblical Nutritionist recommends the water used to boil peels. She refers to a news article citing a study from the Leicester School of Pharmacy (1:57). Am trying to hunt down the original source. Tangerine peels are the specific citrus fruit.

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Orange and grapefruit peel - are they healthy af?
#26

Very interesting. Not sure why she threw away the pulp in the juice. I don’t see any harm here at all, though I appreciate the standard product of pectasol. I’m not sure why it’s so expensive since it’s made of peels and the juice makers probably love getting rid of them by the truck.

MCP is modified just by heat. Not too much and not too little. It makes the pectin smaller so it will be absorbed better.

I know the “paper” is just pretty much written by eco nugenics as a way to get the word out about their product. I’ll try to do some searching and see if I can find somebody that will do a challenge for me using DMSA, which I’m using every 2 weeks anyway. Then I’ll go about 3 months, twice a day and see in the end if anything changes. My winter project. Harvest is over, but we’re still catching up with what we let go in order to get it done.

#27

Poking around brought me to the Dutch website below:

In collaboration with an organization that is part of Nature’s Defence, a British holding company, these investigators have been involved in developing fruit extracts containing high concentrations of CYP1B1 active compounds, and a number of hydrophilic and lipophilic compounds yielding cytotoxic metabolites have been identified and made available over the counter. There do not appear to have been clinical trials reported, either randomized or otherwise, and the identity of the compounds appears proprietary. However, these extracts have been used by individuals in the belief that the extracts are a significant approach to therapy for existing cancer; some interesting anecdotal results have been collected, and 5 case reports have been published.33 All involved advanced and/or terminal cancer cases that included melanoma, lung, prostate, bladder, and breast. In all cases the positive response was rapid and dramatic and, for some, apparently curative. Unfortunately, these results, although published in a peer-reviewed publication, have surely gone almost entirely unnoticed because the journal is not monitored by Medline (PubMed) and probably is absent from many library subscription lists.

Copyright (C) Orthokennis The Role of Salvestrols in the Prevention and Treatment of Cancer Article in Integrative Cancer Therapies, March 2009 | Stichting OrthoKennis

Typing “englisch” in the search box yielded some English articles, among them:

They refer to a commercial Salvestrol product.

Another doc with five different cases:

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=167614fe39183e62d9646cfd0fa738ac7e9390fc

Searching shows that commercial Salvestrol is readily available. They seem to be as expensive as MCP. Searching for the salvestrol content of tangerine peels has, so far, yielded no result.

#28

I did read a book on salvestrols, but that is not the mechanism I was thinking was the most important here. MCP is an inhibitor of galectin 3, in fact it affects all the galectins.

I was wrong about using heat to make the MCP. It looks like they use ph:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0268005X16300509

This is a good review of the cancer fighting properties of MCP:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224415000941

I doubt the lady in your video was getting MCP in any quantity so it probably is Salvestrol in that case.