#122

I’ll let you know how it works out. It’ll take a week or two to arrive. And I’ll let the toughest critic I know try it out first - my wife. If she says it’s good, then you know it is.

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#123

Is I :heart: My Pillow and My Pillow the same brand? I sleep on I :heart:My Pillow and really like it.

#124

I never said anything about not wanting to slow down aging, but again, I don’t see the logic in barely exercising for longevity. Is there any data to back that up?

If I understood what you said correctly, you’re saying that “low exercise and expenditure” is going to make me have excellent capacity to increase my VO2max at an old age if I wanted to?

Why not just have excellent VO2max/strength at that age?

If yoga/pilates/calisthenics/tai chi/walking strain your muscles in such a way that your type 2 muscle fibres increase/remain and/or the contractibility remains, sure.

  • The reduction in muscle fiber size is fiber type specific, with 10%-40% smaller type II fibers observed in muscle tissue collected from elderly compared with young controls [27]. In contrast, type I muscle fiber size is largely unaffected [22,28,29]. These fiber type specific changes can be explained by the age-related remodeling of motor units that result mostly in denervation of type II muscle fibers with collateral re-innervation of type I muscle fibers [30,31,32].

And also the exercises you mentioned will not tax your legs in a way to increase/maintain muscle strength in your legs.

  • Further, more muscle mass and strength is lost by men compared to women particularly in muscles of the lower limbs [15,16]

To your point about bodybuilders, strength athletes and conventional atheletes, when competing a vast majority of them will be on exogenous hormones and other medications to increase recovery/performance, it’s not a fair comparison.

I agree with you that one should use their mind when exercising and Tai Chi seems like a decent way.

I also agree with you that everyone needs to train their stabilizers more (me included).

Study I referenced: Aging of Skeletal Muscle Fibers

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#125

@Melih Not quite what I was saying. Dont really care about VO2 max to begin with. The animals that lived the longest are the ones on restricted calories and reduced metabolic activity not the ones with optimal VO2 maxes. Of course thats just a start, there needs to be other things in terms of supplements to increase things like cellular level and DNA level repair.

Im not looking to just live to 90 but good fitness. But rather 120+ and maybe 150+ and higher depending on what future advancements come out.

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#126

@LaraPo, I believe they are different. This is what I have been using for the last year.
MyPillow Premium Bed Pillow Set of 2 Queen Medium and Firm https://a.co/d/c0ZQyW0

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#127

Have you got some experience with yoga or pilates or bodyweight training? Sure they produce hypertrophy, work also muscle fiber type II and are good for maintaining and also building muscle. Legs included. Are they as effective as weighted strength training? Surely not. But there are other benefits that IMO outweigh this lack.

My routine includes weekly sprints, they do train legs well besides CVS… In season I also ski, hike, swim and play tennis. I like to mix things and do not specifically train with longevity in mind. It a mix of things I like, I do it daily and it keeps my body and mind in check. If I will notice that I am waisting muscle, loosing strength I will check back. This is what is more important IMO than obsess too much or exaggerate/overtrain in any activity… balance, that is my guidance.

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#128

Was their a group of animals with perfect VO2maxes to compare with? No.

All these animals were lab animals and they basically did nothing but sit inside their cage, are you going to sit inside a cage for the rest of your life?

How are you going to be physically fit at an old age by doing “low exercise and expenditure”?

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#129

:ok_hand: If you do, please report back.

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#130

Peter Attia and Peter Diamandis too

For once (?) all the “gurus” are concurring…

Expensive, but given how important sleep is and how large a percent of our lives we do it, perhaps something I’ll consider. Also seems to be separate for each side of the bed so benefits two people if sleeping together.

Has anyone here tried it? Seem to be two options - one where you keep you own main mattress and put this over, one where you get a completely new mattress from them with it built in.

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#131

I had a look at this, but it’s quite expensive. Chillisleep units are cheaper but they currently seem to be sold out. Peter Attia used to have a discount on his site for the product. Not sure if he still does

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#132

I picked one up off Craigslist for $200. They are good, but pretty loud. I’m wondering if the Ooler version is quieter

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#133

I have the Ooler, but it way to noisy too unfortunately.

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#134

I definitely want to get my hands on something like this, my sleep is awful. I’ve noticed that I sleep much better when it’s cooler. Is there a way too cancel out the noise with something else?

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#135

I’d like to try this. I noticed that the Parasym system is only available in the UK and Europe. I’ll be heading over next week, I’ll order one and give a try and see what results I can get.

#136

I use earplugs… but less than ideal.

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#137

@RapAdmin, I’ve been using ear plugs for so long (from previously working nights) that the NP said I have the largest ear canals she has ever seen. They only slightly buffer noise now and I can carry on a conversation while wearing them with little difficulty.

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#138

FWIW

I use Howard Leight MAX-1 Foam Ear plugs, they are NRR33 rated{highest noise reduction available. I then soak them in water to make them even higher noise blocking.

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#139

Those look good. There are a few other brands that seem also as good:

https://www.amazon.com/Macks-Maximum-Protection-Soft-Earplugs/dp/B07B6PQFYW

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007XJOLG/

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#140

I think BJ may need a little more hard science input/consultation to what he tries. I’m open minded but there are some things he’s doing that I think are bordering on snake oil.

I also think you need a scientific strategy, you can’t just take max doses of everything that’s worked in ITP trials or everything a company recommends. Prevagen is a good example of a product with no scientific basis, no evidence, and a company making claims about memory enhancement, some discretion is needed. I enjoyed Rich Miller and Matt Kaeberlein’s recent discussion where they address some of this with respect to resveratrol. I’m afraid there will soon be lots of people throwing the kitchen sink at longevity with no rationale.

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#141

I tend to agree. It helps to have a model of aging that you are targeting so you don’t end up pushing your systems in two contradictory directions with no effect or even a negative net effect.

I tend to look at things in a cyclical manner. In many ways the circadian cycle is building during the day and repairing at night (autophagy etc). If you end up trying to push the wrong process at the wrong time it could be counter productive.

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