#21

Reviewing my post at the thread below , where I wondered:

Qualifications

Oliver earned his M.B.B.S. from King’s College London, England (equivalent to the US M.D.)

First Class Honours BSc in Regenerative Medicine, Innovation Technology & Biology of Aging.

Visiting Fellowship in Evidence Based Medicine, at the University of Sydney

Cambridge University Judge Business School Accelerator Program

Cambridge University Medical Education Masters to be started in 2023

Young guy (29), in school most of the time. Wonder how many patients he has treated. There is no stated hospital experience, nor research lab experience.

Website offers software, longevity school training, red wine polyphenols for $800 [12 bottle lot ($66 per bottle of 60, but not sold individually)], and testing ( The Zolman 78 organ panel).

The website no longer offers the red wine polyphenols mentioned in my earlier post.

Website has a Longevity School. Reminds me of the adage - The good ones practice; the poor ones teach.

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#22

Apparently you weren’t paying him enough to tolerate you :wink:

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#23

Some criticisms (which seem reasonably accurate) that I’ve seen today on X / Twitter on Bryan Johnson:

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#24

Using botox and hair dye is not IMO anything related to health improvement

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#25

One of my favorite YouTube channels (What I’ve Learned) has started posting a series of Bryan Johnson debunking video shorts:

What I’ve Learned - YouTube

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#26

If I were Zolman I’d pivot to spirituality for awhile, chasing perfectionism and measuring way past the threshold for diminishing returns might lead to burnout and similar problems. It helps then to simplify the protocol with fresh eyes or seeing whats important, but maybe all of them are. Maya (illusion) gets the best of us at times.

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#27

I suspect that working for somebody worth 9 figures helps to increase ones tolerance levels, hoping to get a piece :stuck_out_tongue:

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#28

Typically with social media “take downs”, the believers will still believe and the haters will still hate. Maybe when it comes to a person working towards a healthier life, it may make a difference but I doubt it.

We see a lot of mis- and dis- information in the health, wellness and longevity industry and it’s been like that from the time of the first magic potion.

One aspect of that, most people do not like to be wrong, especially if they hung their hat on an idea and went full acolyte. It’s hard to come back from that.

I’ve got lots of practice at being wrong and being corrected :slight_smile:

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#29

So, you are saying you are happily married… :slight_smile:

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#30

This is everyone’s perfect opportunity to see how emotionally mature they are.

First of all, I think it is important for people to not be afraid to try things…to be wrong …to have others throw it in their face when they quit the thing that was supposed to be so great. So try things. But second, always evaluate results. This isn’t about the afterlife…it’s about improving life. So if it isn’t working, if I am an emotionally mature (wise) person, I will / should change direction.

I have made many mistakes and still defended them because I needed to protect my ego. I’m trying to be better than that but it’s always hard.

It’s a good test. Is anyone perfect? No one I know.

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#31

LoL!!

It will be 50 years this August :slight_smile:

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#32

*stands up and claps!

You are proof of the question properly answered…

Would you rather be right or would you rather be married

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#33

Joseph Everett (WIL) has less than accurate takes, e.g atherosclerosis by not paying attention to the genetic/MR and RCT evidence of LDL-C/APOB, which also has a causal role in the current stroke epidemic among carnivore dieters.

Paraphrased and as if addressed to WIL:

First video…

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fhczQTEd9BM
$10 cheaper EVOO from this place

Didn’t account for shipping costs, they cost about the same with them included. Good job.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RmgnZgjOxy0
Bryan says EVOO needs to be fresh … But his EVOO doesn’t have harvest date!

How does that contradict his statement that EVOO needs to be fresh? Does freshness depend on whether there is a harvest date on the bottle?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ccCoahHIA6E
Why can’t Bryan explain why speed of aging tests are good if he’s selling them?

He has a team of doctors and researchers. It was an old podcast uploaded much later, and he wasn’t selling the tests at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A3qH72yewjM
Doesn’t share all biomarkers… “not good enough reading yet of apoB” listed.

True, but many of them are good, and I’m unsure if he has shared the most important ones.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YqWmFxd_Cdc
Changed rejuvenation olympics leaderboard method before WSJ article

This seemed like a nothingburger when it happened IMO, it seems the leaderboard stopped sorting from relative reduction in “pace of aging”, to average 3 best tests over years. It changed people’s positions, whether it was done right before a WSJ article seem like extraneous information.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8-uXfx7Uc7Q
Doesn’t believe Bryan isn’t on TRT, doesn’t share two biomarkers to prove it

Why do you want to prove him or you right, and didn’t you already say he doesn’t post all of his biomarkers?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xogEeIziVx4
EVOO is better than Ozempic according to BJ

I agree it isn’t better than it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k2_coCvgTD8
Bryan says he has the best biomarkers but first example he points to is speed of aging which a McDonald’s dieter had even better score

What’s with this reasoning? Why does it matter what first example he would say or mention, whether he has the best biomarkers or not, and thereby the healthiest person? In the clip it’s “comprehensive”, and “speed of aging as an example”, he OBVIOUSLY does not only mean speed of aging.
Does WIL not know what an example is, or what comprehensive mean? Of course he does, so what is he doing here?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-pXQyq8_vLk
Not detected B12, Selenium, etc, then CoA’s are not available

AFAIK it simply could be differences between capsules, e.g. some have more, some have less, based on manufacturing, so it should average itself out with enough capsules, but I’m not an expert. Most companies don’t show CoA’s instead have to email the company. I think Blueprint should use one of the labs by ND or affiliates, they are trusted in the supplement industry: Meet Our Third Party Labs

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Dyfl9nnJ8kg

Went over this straw man in another thread. Never claimed he eat the food from this service or that it’s lab tested.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zUn3ljaYAVo
Best night erections … he’s taking cialis

Is he still taking it? Just because he said at one point, doesn’t mean he still is.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hr3G8ELmB8k
Photoshopped graphic… but maybe he did it to make it clearer. And declined Horvath to check his biological age data. Dates on blood tests, etc.

If he did use photoshop, yes…? To make it clearer… like you said? Obviously? You can reject someone’s service for many different reasons including when it’s free. He wanted to talk about rejuvenation olympics like you said. Excel can have more information, of course, that’s possible, where’s your biomarkers data Joseph Everett?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Emj4adlEwpo
Doesn’t know or can’t answer on certain things on podcasts, but answer other things

He has a team of doctors and researchers like you say.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VmQv3GdDVKI
Didn’t have intent to make money… but why from beginning did he have affiliate links? No special affiliations? But 3 months after Derek interview he had speed of aging tests on sale!

Just because you have affiliate links doesn’t mean money was your intention. Bad or misleading reasoning. So you’re saying yourself now that he didn’t sell the speed of aging test during Derek’s interview, yet in a previous video you did say this?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8ibv9TN-rzQ
Healthy with low body temperature, yet he takes thyroid medication?

Wow, this is one of the worst inferences ever. Just because your thyroid might not work correctly with low body temperature, which is bad thyroid → low body temperature. Doesn’t mean that him having a low body temp is because of a bad thyroid? Why? Because as you say, he takes the thyroid hormone.

I have to spell this bad inference WIL is making

1 gallon of soy milk + low protein diet doesn’t affect my testosterone, because it’s high… because I take testosterone. But I didn’t mention I take testosterone patches.

Absolutely wrong, because the lack of thyroid hormone is causing the low body temp, and thus it’s alleviated by taking thyroid hormone. It’s not the bad thyroid per se. This is also why you don’t understand why LDL-C and APOB causes heart disease. You apparently think in a way which most people would say is wrong. But there are plenty of people who think in a wrong way that want to watch your videos, and they will have consequences from that.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u2BJdno6Vp8
Best blood tests over 2 years.

More recent tests are better, of course. You say sky high blood pressure and blood sugar, but not LDL-C or apoB. How about you ask a cardiologist with expertise in genetics if LDL-C or apoB is causal in ASCVD.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hlpHz0AXOoo
“Bryan johnson caught using bots” “There are bot comments paid by someone”

Why are you saying he is using bots on his YouTube page in your title, when you yourself in your video say someone is doing it?

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I’m over this, I was going to check every video, but no.

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Bryan Johnson, Is he the New Poster Child for Rapamycin Use?
#34

Jeezus Joseph and Mary, did you seriously spend that much time on that comment with its formatting breaks? What’s the point of eking out extra years from the body than nature had in mind to give if time is to be spent like this?

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#35

Sorry if someone posted this already, I didn’t read the entire thread. This is a reply from Bryan Johnson on X (a/k/a Twitter) from today defending himself from the NYT piece:

https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1903955425692946496

#36

Yes. ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

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#37

Maybe time to touch some grass? Or take up knitting?

#38

If you think anything I said is wrong, happy to be corrected.

#39

and not just in this topic, @anuser, got me from another topic to come see his answer protecting BJ here.

But @AnUser
you must agree that he launched his self to celebrity as a multimillionare that was trying to make a protocol for help people achieve a longer life.
But today when you search for “blueprint bryan johnson”, you don’t find the protocol anymore. You find a supplement store.

You must agree that he say Blueprint is transparent. But the exams are just particially showed. The medics studies, advances and throwbacks are not reported.

You must agree that if your primary objective is to “help advance humanity… the protocol…” you would show all information. If for some reason, you are not being good in something, no problem. At least you are trying to be!

BUT if your primary objective is to be the showman, the actor, in the story telling marketing, with the objective to sell supplements to longevity; then you will hide the part that is not going so well.

And maybe pay some people to keep digging in forum and others, giving long answers trying to protect the narrative.

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#40

@AnUser if you like Bryan, you would also like https://www.davepascoe.net/
but different from BJ, I think Dave Pascoe is very honest

and his main website it is not transformed in a supplement store yet :slight_smile:

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