I do balance exercises occasionally. My static balancing on one leg, eyes-open, is pretty good, a couple minutes. I also extend and move my free leg forward, side, back. This requires counterbalance and improves the ability to control body equilibrium in movement. Eyes-closed, maximum 3 seconds, usually less.

At 83 y.o. I am resigned to the likelihood that eyes-closed balance isnt going to get any better. I wonder if anyone has been able to significantly improve their eyes-closed balance.

Big improvement for me over the last couple of years (2 seconds to now 1 minute), but I’m only 53.

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Wow! So maybe there is hope. I’ll add eyes-closed practice.

This is another useful functional test. It is, however, also a learned skill and although balance is a useful skill I am not sure that it therefore carry forward to other aspects of longevity. I may practice this when I have some spare time, but I stopped doing it at 30 seconds on left and right feet (eyes open - age 62). Eyes closed is probably more useful to practice as it tests out more systems. Eyes closed I can only do a few seconds at the moment.

I find this online test of High Frequency Hearing quite an easy thing to use. It is, however, not so much something which can be improved by practice.

I can hear up to 14kHz.

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there is apparently some evidence that sarcopenia might be related to nerves flaking out, which could also affect vestibular sense.

Muscle growth requires three things, a) exercise, b) nutrients (protein etc), c) for satellite cells to differentiate so they produce the right proteins. As people get old c) fails which discourages a).

My view is that the failure of differentiation has the same cause as osteoporisis as highlighted in this paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43587-021-00105-8

This paper goes part way down the same route:

My own experimentation appears to substantiate the argument that it is possible to create an environment in which muscle growth becomes easier and the point in c) above is essentially resolved.

This is very interesting. Seems like we can compare to see how we are doing compared to the norm. Would be interesting to see if, over time, rapamycin slows the decline (as mouse studies show already).

Rapamycin Maintains Hearing Study Here: Rapamycin Delays Age-Related Hearing Loss (part 2)

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This page

Gives some age ranges. I prefer the test on the other page I linked to. This is, however, more a question of how high a frequency someone can hear.

One thing I regret is not having enough base measurements when I started out trying to improve my health at the cellular level. Hence I don’t know where I was on this measurement two years ago.

Yes there is hope - I feel the muscles in the feet are constantly working to adjust the balance - really have to concentrate. (It must be how blind people adapt and it then comes naturally to them so they don’t then think about it)

Thats a valuable observation and hypothesis. To test it, I just took off my crocs, stood balancing on one leg and concentrated on the sensations in my feet. I then closed my eyes and on my first try doubled my previous “record” of 3 seconds to 6".
In the past I had been trying to stabilize myself entirely by focusing my attention on receptors at the top of my body. Now I see that the feet sense and adapt earlier to changes in weight equilibrium. Potentially through training using eyes-closed balance exercises we could gain better early warning of imbalance and reduce the risk of falls.

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This is an interesting test. I mountain bike and can do track stands and am able to stand on one leg for several minutes easily. However, trying this with my eyes closed was a disaster - 6 seconds!. I am prone to sea sickness so must be an inner ear problem which I don’t know how to correct

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Im about to publish an interview that touches on the why eyes closed is harder (not hard to guess) and what it means (very important; not good) and how to recover (it take a bit of work but the fix might have many benefits).

Stay tuned.

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I asked copilot.microsoft.com the following question: “How long would a healthy 20 year-old be able to stand on one leg eyes open and eyes closed?” The answer was " 30 to 60 seconds with their eyes open, and around 15 to 30 seconds with their eyes closed."

I can easily beat that eyes open example with my 3 minute single leg stand eyes open. But, with eyes closed I probably can’t do 5 seconds. It’s depressing and it doesn’t seem to get better with practice.

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I notice a similar instance between light and darkness going down stairs. When I was younger I don’t remember hesitating going down familiar porch steps in the dark. My mental model of where I was stepping was very solid. But now - Going down those same steps is like stepping into the void. I’ll be very interested in the interview!

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It’s very interesting to see how things can be changed with some body manipulation. (It requires your own skill or the skill of a very good PT). My point is your feeling less stable going down a dark staircase is not necessarily permanent.

Yesterday my PT noticed I was not doing an exercise well (a common occurrence!), so he said stand on your left leg. He noticed I was a little wobbly. He then manipulated my foot for a few minutes, and poof, I was then standing perfectly balanced on that same leg.

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I can go down the stairs easily in the dark - I just have to use the hand rail. What I am pointing out is that darkness is the equivalent of closing the eyes and trying to balance.

You have a good PT!

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Here is my episode with Gage Banks that answers the question of why it is so hard for some people (me included) to stand on one leg with the eyes closed. …and how to solve it…and what other life changing benefits you can obtain by re-integrating yourself. I have added the “look at heels” technique and I swing my arms to notice them while I walk…every day.

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FWIW, I’ve been thinking about this … my experience leads me to think that the big things are muscle strength & mental focus, in particular on how my legs & ankle feel.

I don’t try to stand without moving my feet, but if I let my feet slide to regain balance when it starts to slip I can continue.

Are there interventions that improve this metric without training it directly? I suspect doing the exercise daily does not actually change the metrics we care about (longevity, survival rates, etc). It’s akin to using a grip strength trainer in order to improve grip strength metric, which is used as a proxy in studies for overall strength.

Here is what o3-mini suggested with the following prompt. I would be inclined to incorporate training like this and only use the balance test infrequently, say once a month or quarter, to measure progress.

Balance on one leg time is predictive of survival rates. How might one improve this metric without directly training it? Eg grip strength is often used as a proxy for overall strength as a predictor of longevity. Directly training grip strength is unlikely to have the same effect as overall strength training that indirectly improves grip strength.

Improving one-leg balance time indirectly involves enhancing the underlying systems that contribute to postural stability—namely, lower-body strength, core stability, neuromuscular coordination, and flexibility. Instead of practicing static one-leg stands, you can adopt a holistic training regimen that bolsters these foundational elements:

  1. Lower-Body Strength:

Compound exercises such as squats, lunges, and deadlifts develop the muscles around the hips, knees, and ankles. For example, deep squats not only increase quadriceps and glute strength but also engage stabilizing muscles that contribute to improved balance. By building strength, you enhance the structural support necessary for maintaining a steady, single-leg stance.

  1. Core Stability:

A robust core is essential for transferring forces and maintaining equilibrium. Exercises like planks, side planks, and dynamic movements (e.g., medicine ball rotations) train the deep abdominal and back muscles. A stable core minimizes unnecessary body sway and improves your ability to control weight shifts—a critical factor in balance performance.

  1. Neuromuscular Coordination:

Integrated movements that require coordination between multiple muscle groups can improve your proprioceptive feedback without being labeled “balance training.” Movements such as kettlebell swings, Turkish get-ups, or even multi-directional lunges force your body to adapt and stabilize dynamically. These exercises condition the nervous system to respond efficiently to shifts in balance during everyday activities.

  1. Flexibility and Mobility:

Adequate joint range of motion—especially in the ankles, hips, and lower back—allows for smoother corrective movements when balance is challenged. Incorporating dynamic stretching, yoga, or mobility drills can help reduce stiffness and improve the fluidity of movements, indirectly contributing to better balance control.

  1. Integrated Functional Training:

Programs that combine strength, endurance, and mobility (like functional fitness or cross-training regimens) naturally enhance balance. For instance, a circuit that blends resistance exercises with dynamic, multi-planar movements forces the body to constantly adjust, thereby training the neuromuscular system to react to changes in posture and terrain.

The rationale behind this approach is similar to how overall strength training enhances grip strength even though you’re not isolating the grip. In both cases, you’re improving a core aspect of physical function (muscular strength, coordination, stability) that then manifests in better performance on a specific metric—in this case, balance on one leg. Over time, as your muscles, joints, and nervous system become more resilient and adaptive, you’ll likely see improvements in balance without the need to focus exclusively on single-leg stands.

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@dicarlo2 Yes. Check out my talk with Gage Banks. See the link in this thread. He speaks to this point directly.

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I currently do this with wall squats, lol.

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